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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You're doing it again, mate. What is being heard by your audience is that your sound sensitivity is as important as (or more important than) this woman being fired at and grabbed by secret police in front of her children.

There are orders of magnitude separation between those levels of trauma. Those children will never be the same, nor will the mother.

Frankly, fuck your sound sensitivity. Contextually wildly inappropriate to complain about, compared to the severity of the situation.

[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

From that context, absolutely fuck my sound sensitivity. I have no problem with that. But there is no way in hell that I'll get someone to tell me that me finding it annoying isn't appropriate. Instead I'm beraded, because people interpret some truly wild shit into what I said. I see that, isn't hard to see either. I even commented in the comment itself, that I find the idea of the whistles to be good.

And again, I don't really give a shit what you think I said. I give a shit about what I say. What you think I said is not reality. That's a hallucination. Especially online.

And what's this you're on about inappropriateness? I'm annoyed by the sound. It's appropriate I say that. Making sure to still say I'm for it. That's american taboo-think.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

It's appropriate to say that.

Absolutely, unequivocally not. No. By doing so, you are trivializing their experience.