THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
① Real-life decorum is expected. Please don't say things only a child or a jackass would say in person.
② If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
④ Please don't dox or post calls for harassment, vigilantism, tar & feather attacks, etc.
Please also abide by the instance rules.
It you've been banned but don't know why, check the moderator's log. If you feel you didn't deserve it, hey, I'm new at this and maybe you're right. Send a cordial PM, for a second chance.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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Why not? Because I'm a decent human being and understand that there are nice americans, even though they mostly sound like uneducated pricks with no backbone, with some intense exceptions.
We won't get far by infighting.
And yet here you are calling me part of the worst non-absolute far-right group in your life.
I will not do the same to you.
It's not infighting to tell somebody to shut up when they don't even live here, and come into a post about ICE kidnapping people to whine about their headache.
Get over yourself.
Yet you didn't. You called me a republican. Here, let me show you how to say what you said you said: "Hey, that's a kidnapping, so I don't think you finding this annoying is relevant at all." Or if you want to be less nice, which is fine given the circumstances: "The fuck do you mean annoying? These are REAL PEOPLE getting abducted. Are you slur". Add spice as you wish. You're not telling me to shut up, you're just insulting me over and over again. Which is exactly the kind of thing AfD voters do when they feel they have no other choices left. But there are choices left.
Instead of any interest in discussion, I get the answer "You know whats annoying? A military invasion.". Followed by me saying that that's not a strong enough emotion, which somehow got downvoted, which feels near-sighted. Whereafter I am accused of criticizing, which I factually just did not do, and upon me pointing that out you just started insulting me.
And just as a sidenote: I don't care about america's little luxury issues, just as with hungary. If you guys voted for politics that do this to you and DIDN'T GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE, tough luck. I will still fight for the people that wish for something better, though my power is limited of course. I will argue it fails to compare to genocide. So maybe it's just because I've become desensitized by war and misery, but right now, as it stands, I do not care about the "land of the free" as much as I do about other countries. And if I only ever see everything bad in the world, what am I even living for? So forgive me if I don't care for your always-been fascist homecountry. I recognize that I have it better as a person in germany right now, but you have no idea how much pain you as a nation have brought to europe. I hope your government will become a functioning democratic institution at one point in time. So while I have no self to get over, I will tell you to get over your stupidly fragile ego and national superiority complex. Because you're exactly the kind of person that will complain about your country, then say it's still the best and stay and talk shit about others.
It'll get better, let's hope for as little collateral damage as possible along the way.
And stop the infighting, you didn't even realize you were doing it.