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You might need to hear that I don't have any issue with Sankara, or you. I have issues with the meme you shared being essentially fantasy.
Did you even read that article you linked to? Because I have, many times since it was published in 2016. It only supports me, and makes zero mention of Sanakara.
So even the other experts you found agree with me.
Next, you don't even know what the meme says. From www.thomassankara.net
That's the 60%. It's all over the internet. No math needed.
Look, there's no reason to die on the hill of someone else's misrepresented meme text. That's someone else doing Sankara dirty, not you. There's no reason to double down without doing due diligence, it's just self-own after self-own. And no reason to resort to personal attacks.
@PugJesus@piefed.social @hansolo@lemmy.today
I get y'all are beefing hard here, but this has been one of the most fascinating threads I've read in a while. While I'm sure neither of you are happy at the exchange, I am very happy about it and thank you for giving me more info about a place I've spent 0% of my life thinking about.
Lol, thanks I guess! And no true beef from me against @PugJesus@piefed.social at all. But that meme might as well have been about how Thomas Sankara invented the phone book and was secretly the Tooth Fairy.
Burkina Faso is a really interesting place, and just always feelt offwhenever I was there. Like, there's tons of vultures. Everywhere else in the whole Sahel region you'll see doves and crows and eagrets. Burkina is just overloaded with vultures. In the city, out in the county, so weird. Tragic what has happened there over the last decade.
Except every one of the points you disputed has been proven to be correct, you simply don't like that they're being portrayed positively, because it apparently contradicts some universal narrative you've constructed for yourself.
Fuck's sake, I see your reading comprehension is as poor as your math.
I'm sorry that your reading comprehension is apparently below the level of basic literacy. I hope you get better.
"It doesn't mention Sankara, who was instrumental in Burkina Faso's green initiatives started in the 1980s, which is exactly the period of transformation - through the crisis in the late 70s to a rapid improvement in regreening and retention of trees seen in a handful of countries, Burkina Faso notably included, in the 90s and 2000s; therefore, this doesn't relate to Sankara's initiative in the 1980s at all."
Yes. Of course. Silly me. You didn't see those trees in Burkina Faso, so obviously this article is lying, too. Otherwise you might have to walk back a dumbass claim you made, refuted by an article that you claim to have 'repeatedly read' since 2016.
I literally do, because I possess basic literacy; a skill which is apparently less common online than expected.
From a source I didn't use or cite, how lovely.
Oh, well, if it's all over the internet, it must be the only possible interpretation. Reduced to a boolean.
Or, or-and this may be shocking- that's a misreading of the actual statistics, which is an increase of Burkina Faso's literacy rate from 8% to 13% or 13% to 22% (depending on whether you prefer the numbers of the World Bank or Burkina Faso itself) - in both cases, an increase of ~60%.
"Doing Sankara dirty" being... highlighting his achievements, which you then universally dismiss because "Nothing lasts in the Sahel" and "African Marxists have never accomplished anything"?
How ironic.
I notice you haven't elaborated on any of your fucking insane points that I disputed about how neither the ability to utilize the written word in French nor local languages is 'real' literacy, by some bizarre mental gymnastics of your's.
FFS, I'm on mobile, I'm not swiping you a novel.
Plus you only want a fight and to discard any evidence I provide for you. Like a site filled with actual information about the guy in this vague meme, which you ignore. Even though it's clearly the "source" of the "data" for this meme. Ugh, this is like talking to MAGA people on Facebook, reality is bad, feelings only good.
About the literacy issue, French was the official language for any former French colony, and therefore the only metric of "literacy" for many francophone counties in Africa after independence was, perversely, French. It varies by country, but ECOWAS countries didn't start officially recognizing local languages until much later.
Teaching literacy in local languages, however, is not so easy. There are no manuals or materials, and the French school system that everyone kept well into today is extremely wrote memorization based. I had a friend who did this all from the ground up 20 years ago in a widely spoken language, and everything was starting from nothing, all to get about 100 village kids to read the language they already spoke.
Why keep French? Because the elites use it to perpetuate classism. They all have flats in Paris, so none of this affects them, and only hold back the county because most French-speakers on earth are in West Africa, so they end up learning Arabic or English to try and get a university degree outside Francophone West Africa that is worth their time. It was super bold of Niger to drop French recently, as long as they sorted out how to deal with 4 main local languages that everyone speaks one or two of.
Anyway, I'm going to bed, so you have fun saying more irate things that just point to your own lack of knowledge and willingness to learn. This is not a conversion, it's a rant prompt for you, which is not worth my time. Have a nice day. Or not, you pick.
Apparently, you also aren't reading a short article, one that you claimed to have read numerous times in the past.
What evidence did you provide for me?
... the only site you cited you claimed as a source of mis information, that you claimed the meme was perpetuating; not as a source of accurate information. Jesus Christ, can you not keep your own arguments straight?
None of that says anything about why you rejected both as 'real' literacy, but I guess non-sequiturs are all you have left to defend the bizarre points of "Writing the local language in Arabic isn't real literacy" and "Being literate in French isn't real literacy".
Anything to make sure those scary African Marxists... how did you put it? "have any sort of success at all"?