I really wish posts like this included more interesting discussion, instead of 90 % of people just white knighting how shocked they are and how awful this is!

Yea we get it after the first comment, you don't need to post the same shit over and over.

My personal genuine question is to women, how they feel about transgender women in their sports? For physical sports I'd imagine it matters even more.

Chess is just a brain game so it really shouldn't matter at all, but I'd still love to womens opinion on the subject.

[–] Urbanfox@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (20 children)

Woman here, and genuinely, I don't know what's right.

I can recognise that m>f after puberty gives someone a strength advantage but at the same time it's hard enough having to transition without feeling even more marginalised by being banned from sports.

Maybe there needs to be just a women's and open category to recognise the strength handicap that cis women have for certain activities and allow anyone to compete in open, but then there's the challenge of prize money, viewers etc etc between the two that also needs to be managed appropriately.

At the end of the day, someone isn't going to be happy and for that there is no good solution, but we need to be doing our best for cis and trans athletes to make sure everyone has a chance to compete in the sports they live.

Chess? Banning trans competitors is fucking idiotic and the chess federation can fuck right off with that implied notion of women being less capable.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just don't think there's a blanket answer, that doesn't involve invasive poking and prodding. There's always going to be somebody unhappy.

Any pro-trans decision, like just opening it up and having ability ranked categories is in danger of sidelining women's sports. But... they are anyway...

England have just reached the women's World Cup final in Australia. I look out the window right now, and I don't see a single England flag. For the men's tournament last year there was so many flags about you'd think we'd just crowned a new king on St George's Day. People were playing "Three Lions" for the 13th major tournament in a row. And we did fucking rubbish in that compared to the ladies.

It's strange the these people "protecting women's sports" are completely absent when it comes to supporting them.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

It’s strange the these people “protecting women’s sports” are completely absent when it comes to supporting them.

It's really not strange at all when you consider the fairly obvious fact that it was never about protecting women's sports, but instead about finding a way to hurt trans people that plays well in the media.

Seriously, find me a conservative whose railing against trans women in sports that has actually attended a WNBA game, or is watching every game of the women's world cup. I'm sure they exist, but I'd be surprised if even 5% of the people who act like the world will end if trans women are allowed to compete in sports have ever actually expressed interest in womens sports. And hell, I'll bet the number who have actively made fun of womens sports before this became a hot topic is a hell of a lot higher lol

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