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I love how this is all gen ed level college race and diversity course, and yet the majority of people here still will never even try to understand it. I try to bring this up every time I see a comment about misandry or reverse racism, fully knowing I'll get downvoted into oblivion. definitely a reminder that the majority of of lemmy skews to priveledged older white male, even those who call themselves leftists.
you guys are the ones who totally miss the colloquial opinion in academia. idk why you keep appealing to that as if academics agree with vapid moralizing anymore than anyone else. besides, that’s not even how… the humanities work? these things are not presented as facts, they’re presented as imperfect and fallible models like any other field of inquiry, because that’s all we have.
not even discussing the argument at hand, you can’t just respond to people disagreeing with you by saying they’re wrong and they don’t understand. it is immature and shows a lack of higher level reasoning.
but either way the whole line of thought here in these downvoted comments is ass-backwards. it’s not that people disagreeing are all priveleged old white men. it’s that the world literally isn’t some black-and-white place. feels like lots of people are mentally either 13 yo blue haired tumblr girls with a just world fallacy or psycho 12 yo boys nowadays, no inbetweens.
also - saying terms like “reverse racism” or the idea that misandry functionally doesn’t exist are at all common or accepted ideas in academic circles and not radical diactems, especially within sociology/philosophy fields that deal with race/diversity, is so insanely disingenuous as to either be an intentional attempt at manipulation or so obtuse and ignorant as to be buffoonery.
prejudice is still bad! misandry/reverse racism doesn't exist (full stop) but a black person could still be prejudice against white people, or a women could be prejudice again men. that doesn't excuse it, but words and connotation matter.
What's race based prejudice if it isn't racism? You can't just displace the original meaning and pretend the original never existed
Obviously it's generally much more harmful in one direction, but acting like people aren't all just people with the exact same biases, and acting as if which group has power over which isn't something that has kept changing throughout the history of humanity, and acting as if all of human experience is homogeneous (that all people with the same labels have identical experience), is all nonsensical extremist horseshoe politics stuff.
When you hear people on your own side defend Apartheid but for opposing reasons, you gotta admit those people have gone too far off the deep end. Racist extreme right people push it because they believe people are inherently different and can't integrate. Delusional extreme left people do it because "people of different status and power can't mix without abuse" and so they abdicate from the responsibility to support coexistence and mutual understanding, and so they end up helping racists push their policies.
Who in this thread was defending Apartheid? That take seemed to of come out of nowhere!
Unfortunately I've seen real people argue stuff like "black and white people can't mix", and who thought that was a progressive belief