ShowerThoughts

3200 readers

27 users here now

Sometimes we have those little epiphanies in the shower.. sometimes they come from other places. This is a home for those epiphanies.

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

csm10495@sh.itjust.works

128

Do techbros that complain on the Fediverse about people hating on AI realize it isn't just here that hates AI? (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 1 week ago by supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz to c/showerthoughts@sh.itjust.works

115 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Everyone pretty much hates it, its just here is one of the few places online where money and stupidity can't be waved around frantically to hide that.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't be bigoted against technology. AI is not human, or alive.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can for sure be prejudiced against technology. You can engage in bad-faith condemnation of any subject, from a dogmatic belief set, in ways that are not meaningfully distinguished from the practice of bigotry.

Starting from a conclusion and working backwards might be every human vice, at its core. A lot of people are working backwards from the idea that 'AI bad.' This is hard to miss in grand philosophical declarations about art, as if there's only one definition or only one motivation. It's more subtle, and therefore more dangerous, when people start shuffling cards after the word 'because.'

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you might be describing your own bigotry of people who as reasonable questions about new tools and technology like:

What is this tool useful for? Why is it free? What is the end goal? What does it cost? Can it cause harm or death?

The majority of people in the states do not find it useful, are aware they are beta testing/training an unfinished product, have not been given an end goal, have noticed electricity and water bills rising, and have experienced or read about cases of AI assisting humans to cause harm or to commit suicide.

So no, I dont think people are bigoted against AI. The majority of people on here defending AI do so because they personally find it useful and dont care about the other stuff. You are free to be selfish if you want to, but the rest of society is also free to shun you and your opinions.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

'People have legitimate criticism' won't change when they also have illegitimate criticism.

Compare GMO foods. Monsanto was a hideous corporation. The loudest condemnation of the underlying technology was still factually and morally wrong. People sneering 'is this ham processed?!' are not engaged in results-oriented consideration of complex and ambiguous research. They learned some no-no words and they're gonna posture about how smart they are.

Some people are overtly prejudiced against AI. Any pushback on the scope or relevance of their absolute condemnation sees them pivot to some unrelated thing they half-remember, that barely stands up to consideration.

It's a Gish gallop. It's the same tired pattern of behavior used to demonize anything mundane. It read the library and it doesn't magically say only good things and it buys electricity, so if you don't perform the two minutes hate with us, you're a big meanie who must be cast out from society.

Fuck's sake.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are the only one pivoting to another subject, Monsanto.

You haven't responded to a single point I made, so I have literally nothing to respond to.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Your reading comprehension is terrible.