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Respectfully when I know for a fact that what this guy is talking about is happening because I've watched it happen to dozens of kids that age in my life and constantly see it in my own feeds because I try to keep my privacy at least a little so the algorithms can never decide if I'm a teen gamer boy they should push Neo-Nazi shit to or a newly out trans girl I could not give less of a fuck what your definition of "young men" is. In fact I think young men is a pretty fair generalization for dudes that could very well be beginning puberty depending on the person. If you're claiming they weren't part of the discussion when they very clearly need to be I think that's a problem.
Feminists have been talking about this for more than a hundred years now... yet a reactionary grifter says it to score cheap points in an attempt to strawman his opponent and now you all want to die on this hill?
I'm starting to think the way it looks is the way it is.
If you agree that it's happening, why do you minimize the statement by saying that 12 year old boys aren't young men? Is it really so hard to leverage a win from even an imperfect messenger? I feel like if I disliked a guy but he happened to be saying a correct thing I'd leverage it into getting people to care about my cause.
Like maybe leading with how feminists have been talking about how reactionary forces prey on young men to perpetuate the patriarchal structure? Rather than saying fuck this guy he's bad the person he's responding to didn't even mention 12 year old boys. Like... if we both agree that the right going after 12 year old boys is a problem, why are you sitting here arguing about some "reactionary grifter" that made up not even a quarter of the post?
The person you're replying to is just trying to frustrate you.
Yeah I started getting that feeling when they went from 12 year olds being entirely unimportant and nobody was talking about them to saying feminists have been talking about this for a hundred years but I only care now because some reactionary grifter is saying it.
This shit frustrates me so much about the Online Left at times I swear. It feels like so much of Online Lefty politics is fucking LARP, and virtue signaling. Like a lot of these people's politics begins and ends with "Well I'm already doing the Good Thing™ so I shouldn't have to engage in this. Everyone else is The Problem and should just do the Good Thing™ like me."