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Get something small, maybe something like a Lenovo ThinkCentre mini. Put Proxmox on it and install HAOS as a VM. Then when you want to add software, add them as LXC containers on the Proxmox host. Like Z-wave, MQTT, ESPHome, zigbee, etc. I really like having things in separate containers so that way I can work on things separately. If I need to restart the HAOS VM, it's a lot faster because my entire Z-wave network doesn't have to restart.
Avoid adding things that require cloud access. I have to have a damned good use case before I add anything that requires Internet access.
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Avoid using device IDs in automations, use entity IDs instead.
That explains all the problems when I got a new phone. Now I know how to fix it properly.
Good tip. Thanks.
Is it better to keep MQTT, Zigbee etc in containers rather than in HAOS itself? Am I not just creating an upgrade/dependency mess for myself?
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I have two HAOS installations with MQTT as well as ZHA. Mosquito being an add-on, as far as I know it’s a container anyway but ZHA and MQTT are normal integrations and I never have any issues. Generally speaking I always try to stick with what the developers suggest, in my eyes it’s the best strategy to avoid messing up with dependencies as they take care of those.
I think both of these ways are good and valid in their own way, they both have upsides and downsides. For me, having things separated is working well. I especially like being able to reboot HAOS more frequently and as soon as it comes back up all my Z-wave devices are ready to go. Back when I ran Z-wave inside of HAOS it took a lot longer for the Z-wave network to calm down and be ready after a reboot.