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Although I disagree with Dr. Oz's premise, his argument that he's given here is sound.
And a person who makes that argument must believe in universal healthcare. Because there are people out there who can't work today because of health issues, or who are caregivers for people with health issues.
Universal healthcare also allows people to start their own businesses without fear that their decisions will lead to worse medical outcomes.
There may be nothing better for the old GDP than universal healthcare.
The true enemy in healthcare are not utilitarians. It's the small government idiots and the authoritarian sycophants.
Of course, as Dr. Oz is a MAGA conservative, I assume that he doesn't actually have this logical consistency. He likely doesn't even care what he's saying and just makes the most convenient immediate argument and doesn't have any underlying morality that it is based on, except to support Dear Leader, because that's the MAGA way.
The thing is that they've lost the plot. Yes it's good to have everyone healthy so they can contribute to society and keep the economy healthy. But the point of growing the economy should be to make the country better for the people. It should feed back to better quality of life, more opportunities, better education, new useful and fun technology. The goal shouldn't be to grow the economy just so the billionaires get richer.
I don't doubt that Dr. Oz has evil underlying motives. But that isn't the argument that he's made in the quote we're talking about.
Small businesses also have workplaces and also contribute value to the GDP, and meanwhile, large businesses are often holding back our GDP by intertwining themselves with the government so that they don't actually have to compete. They love that people get their healthcare through their businesses today because that makes them closer to slaves.
A person who actually has an underlying moral view that would make them make Dr. Oz's argument would be beneficial to work with to get true public single-payer universal healthcare. (I just looked it up, and Dr. Oz has only supported a private sort of UHC, which is not completely in line with the quote we're looking at, to no surprise.)
Same reason they love H1Bs. Listen to me or leave the country.
I don’t think they’ve lost the plot. They’re just the flesh puppets for a superorganism whose plot is orthogonal to human values
I am with you on everything you said. But some dark humor hit me and I had to share. There is more than one way to make "everyone" healthy. Sure universal Healthcare seems like the obvious solution. But what if we just kill all the unhealthy people. Lies, damn lies, and statistics. :)
Oh you mean the gop plan
the orphan-crushing-machine dialectic.