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During an interview with trans journalist and writer Izzy Dine, published online on Tuesday (21 October), the women and equalities minister was asked what bathroom she thought Dine and other trans women should currently be using.

In September, Phillipson, who is currently running the Labour deputy leadership candidacy, was handed the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s (EHRC) code of practice on single-sex services, which could result in a bathroom ban for trans people.
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Asked what bathroom trans women should currently be using, Phillipson appeared unable to give a clear answer, instead simply restating the ruling, the full impact of which remains unclear: “As Minister for Women and Equalities, I set out the policies responding to the Supreme Court judgement. The Supreme Court were clear that, uh, for the purposes of the Equality Act, sex is biological sex.

“What’s now happening is the Equality and Human Rights Commission have, uh, have consulted on a code of practice to me as the minister. I’ll then be going through that line by line to make sure we get that right. It’s a 300-page document so it will take some time.”

Dine then pointed to interim guidance from the EHRC, which included a clause banning trans women from men’s toilets as well as women’s. The guidance has since been repealed.

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[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This person is your 'friend'? Sus

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol, he's actually a very good friend of mine. I went back to the UK and needed a place to stay and we linked up.

He got me into Expedition 33, Aliens, Fallout and quite a few other things.

We chatted about our old boss who I hated but he loved. Mainly because that old boss screwed me over but felt guilty about and treated people like him better to make up for it. Anyways, that boss has a few kids and one of those kids around 11 or so was wondering if he was the right gender. That incensed that boss and him and my friend would get into discussions about this apparently.

So he said one day about: "there are only two genders in the world". I was like, "wait, what? what are you talking about". Then it went into ... why do people get pissed off when I say there's just two genders. Then I had to say, I think you mean sex ... but you know there are intersex people right? Then he's like, "yes". Then I'm like, "so ... what are we talking about ...?" ... then we got into it a bit and I basically said, "this bathroom shit has caused no problems so far, who honestly cares ... and if anything I've read stories about cis-women being attacked because idiots think they're transgender which is all sorts of fucked up"

I have a lot of people that I consider friends and you sorta don't find out what weird stuff they believe until over time. Like my cousin who I love is a Musk fan and that fucking drives me nuts. Also, if I consider them friends I'm not gonna just cut people out of my life (depending). If they just believe something dumb, I'd rather slow burn their beliefs away.

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, don’t let the “us vs them” crowd pressure you into driving friends away just because you disagree about something. The world needs more lines of communication, not less.