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[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I learned in the US that he was a mixed bag, but no specifics, until I took a history class in Spanish in college. It could be the language difference or the fact that it wasn’t a Catholic school (edit: or honestly, it could have been that instructors are less likely to get angry calls about nightmares in college), but that’s the first place that we got accurate information about him.

We read his journals, which should be possible with a B2 Spanish (but I suspect Italian would also help, because Columbus was pretty confused about Spanish/italian/portuguese and the journals have a lot of idiosyncratic vocabulary), and they’re stomach turning. He was a fucking monster.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Roman Catholic Church of the time would not have approved of Columbus enslaving Christians so it is weird your RC schools praised him.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

They didn’t praise him exactly, they said he was a bad person who did great things. They just didn’t go into detail about the horrific things he also did.

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago

In the Northeast US we definitely learned about him as a hero, but people (at least my age in my area) seemed too pretty quickly, accept that he wasn't as good as we had originally learned.