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And Amazon provides services for government websites through AWS, are you thinking everyone is going to abandon every product that uses AWS as well? Or are we just targeting low hanging fruit?
To be entirely clear, that would be ideal. AWS is far too powerful for anyone's good
everyone? no. someone? yes.
Are you asking if we should boycott every company doing business with (or bending the knee to) the fascists in D.C.? Then yes, we absolutely should. Target, T-Mobile, Palantir, Apple, Amazon. Fuck them all for selling out the American people.
The ones that we viably can, sure. That might change depending on the person, and their needs.
Totally. But I'd submit to you that these aren't normal times where we can just go about our business ignoring politics and using whatever products/services happen to be convenient. Unless each of us individually fights back against the fascists by doing our darnedest to avoid products and services that fund fascist collaborators, we are complicit. Put another way: It is in our power to bring down this regime, and one of the biggest levers we have for doing that is changing our buying habits.
I doubt we could find many sites that don't have some ties/business with the U.S. government. I assume most of Lemmy has ties to AWS or Cloudflare who both support government sites. Lemmy.world uses Cloudflare.
My point was trying to get some random llc shutdown doesn't do anything. All that will happen is people looking down at others while really supporting much larger bigger-issue companies.
It's not about purity testing; it's about harm reduction. I'll give you an example. T-Mobile is directly collaborating with both Trump (via Trump Mobile, which runs on T-Mobile's network) and Elon Musk (via a T-Mobile/Starlink partnership). That's pretty fucking bad from a fascist collaboration perspective. Are Verizon and AT&T any better? A little. They still donated to Trump's inauguration, but at least they're not running mobile networks for him. (EDIT: Or paying for his fucking ballroom.) So would I encourage everyone to switch from T-Mobile to AT&T or Verizon, even if that's not a perfect solution? Absolutely.
I just think it's a really specious argument that "everything we buy is connected to the U.S. government and therefore no purchase is better or worse than any other purchase." That just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
As for putting pressure on the construction company tearing down the east wing of the white house.. I dunno, that seems like fair game to me. We can leave negative reviews for them while also cancelling Amazon Prime.
The government is a small part of Amazon's giant business and most of it is just continuing on from before the government went fascist. This company is making a significant portion of their work destroying the fucking White House under a shady plan. There's a reason this single act is getting more attention than Amazon hosting government servers.
I think it's a lot more accurate to say these companies were enabling it rather than some random llc that bid on the contract. It would make more sense to stop using all of their services/products.
" dinner for potential donors held at the White House on 15 October included senior executives from prominent US companies including Blackstone, OpenAI, Microsoft, Coinbase, Palantir, Lockheed Martin, Microsoft, Amazon and Google.
Also present was Woody Johnson, the owner of the New York Jets NFL team, and Shari and Edward Glazer, who, together with their siblings, own both the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Manchester United.
A pledge form seen by CBS News, the BBC's US partner, suggested that donors could be eligible for "recognition" for their contributions. While plans are still being finalised, that recognition could potentially take the form of names etched into the structure."
A principled construction firm does not destroy national landmarks. This isn't a blind contract, they knew what they'd be doing. I really don't know why you're going so hard for them. It's not that complicated.