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[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not a vegan, but organic is really a marketing term more than anything, at least in the US. Organic farming isn't necessarily a more environmentally safe alternative to normal farming, especially since "organic" pesticides tend to also cause local environmental damage.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is confusing for me. When I was growing up, it was in the aftermath of DDT and all that shit. Organic was what decent people started using to indicate that no awful pesticides like that were used. It wasn’t supposed to be marketing.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

There is a strong anti-organic community that will say this. There is a clear indication of what organic means on the website. It is not perfect, but waaaay better.

https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

nowadays organic just means it doesn't use regulated pesticides, doesn't indicate any quality besides that

[–] XM34@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know and don't care about the US, but at least in the EU this statement is false. The EU-BIO- Label doesn't regulate as much as it could, but it does regulate a lot more than just "no pesticides".

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, I'm in America, and it doesn't mean "no pesticides". it means no pesticides approved by the EPA. fuck knows what they're actually putting on there