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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I'm sorry, who exactly is out here calling mushrooms vegetables??

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago (6 children)

If it goes in soup, it's a vegetable. If it goes in Sangria, it's a fruit.

Next question please.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago

Therefore, chicken and beef is vegetables.

Checkmate, vegans!

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Soup is just beef tea

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Assuming you like eating chicken, when is it wrong to pair chicken with vegetables? I made a vegetable-mushroom-chicken soup last week and it was delish. Whether chicken is or isn't a vegetable is an academic concern, not a culinary one.

Try putting mushrooms or chicken in the sangria however and you'll be rightfully prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hmmm. Since breakfast cereal is demonstrably soup, that makes strawberries, Cheerios, and Reese's Puffs all vegetables. Good to know.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh, fun! The debate over the culinary vs botanical meaning of fruit intersecting with the debate of culinary vs topological meaning of soup.

Breakfast cereal is soup[topological] but not soup[culinary]. It is therefore not a contradiction for it to be fruit[culinary].

[–] farting_gorilla@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

As some said once, a vanilla soy latte is technically a 3 bean soup

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Great word, topological.

[–] moobythegoldensock 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So water, salt, cheese, meat, and noodles are all vegetables?

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Water is debatable, everything else why not. If a recipe is generic enough to call for "vegetables", you wouldn't be wrong to include any of those things.

[–] moobythegoldensock 2 points 5 months ago

So a roasted chicken is a vegetable?

[–] pitaya@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago

Is water a fruit or a vegetable

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

If it is from a plant and it goes into fruit salad, it's fruit

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

As always, science sets us free.

[–] meadsteve@reddthat.com 18 points 5 months ago

I absolutely call them vegetables. It's a kitchen term and it absolutely makes sense to categorise them alongside tomatoes, beans, carrots, squash and cabbage. People get too hung up on things only belonging to exactly one category.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Take a piece of paper with 3 squares drawn on it

And hand a person a picture of an apple, tomato, pepper, cucumber, pork cutlet, and mushroom and ask them to put the pictures into the squares and then label each square

Average person will definitely label a box as vegetables and put the mushrooms in it

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well if you tell me to use only three categories and one of them will obviously be "meat", then I won't put them with apples.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

One box labeled "Brown when cooked properly". Then mushrooms can go in the box with the apples and cutlets.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Box labeled "burnt to a crisp" and put everything in it.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 8 points 5 months ago

That sign can't stop me because I can't cook (let alone properly).

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Apple, tomato, peppers, and cucumbers are all fruits

Mushrooms are mushrooms

Pork is meat

But if you give the average person those it’s much more likely they will make the categories fruits, vegetables, and meat and put mushrooms in the vegetable category

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why are we starting this scenario with the arbitrary restriction of 3? Yes, if you give people any number of items and tell them there is a finite number of categories, they were will find a way to divide those items into three. That doesn't mean they wouldn't come up with a more compelling argument for their choices when told to divide into 4 groups.

At no point have our options ever only been "fruit or vegetable," but yeah I guess if you tell people those are their only choices of course they'll adhere. But like... I've never known anyone who though those were the only choices?

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The point is that may people will instinctually call mushrooms a vegetable

If we take that same example and add 4 categories and then add milk as another item I am still willing to bet the average person will put mushrooms as a vegetable and make the categories fruit vegetable dairy meat even though vegetables aren’t real and you could have a category of animal products.

Now if you only quiz the biology majors you might get a different result but in the U.S. only 38% of people are college educated and the most common major is business

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

I have no college credits and I would never call a mushroom a vegetable

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Most everyone.