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Liberal apathy is how you get to Hitler.
Apparently they do not understand the Paradox of Tolerance, or they're motivated to ignore it.
Nice sentiment, not based in reality though.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lsereviewofbooks/2017/01/30/book-review-democracy-for-realists-why-elections-do-not-produce-responsive-government-by-christopher-h-achen-and-larry-m-bartels/
In other words, voters are morons.
Remember, half of American voters can't read better than a middle school student
It's more than half actually
Voters are just people. People are largely morons, so yes.
That's correct yes
When education is purposefully defunded and left to rot for decades now, is it really that surprising things are the way they are? When voters are more educated, they tend to vote Democrat.
If a country wants to prevent this, then it needs protections that can’t go away for education. Furthermore, media companies need to be held to higher standards of reporting, and at this point I feel that influencers should fall under that bucket as well.
Personally, I don’t hate the idea of tying the ability to vote behind getting any Associates Degree. With the caveat that the college would need to be free and accessible to anyone that wishes to go, with a room and food expenses covered to accommodate people. I feel this is a fairer way to get Aristotle’s idea of restricting voting to the educated.
"Realpolitik"
This only happens in the us btw.
Based
At an executive level, sure.
But the dogged insistence that fascism just happens and nobody does anything about it ignores the armies of protestors, the various pushback at state and local levels, the independent media rallying opposition, and the multiple assassination attempts on fascist figures.
This is in stark contrast to Dem political leadership, who seem to think Donnie is just another guy you make deals with.
For the DC elites, they do. They just can't decide whether Trump is really a problem or merely a fundraising vehicle.
For the propes, urgency exists, but not the power to do anything about it
Nah, this road was inevitable for the US - liberal apathy is a nonsense; it suggests US voters had a choice or a say - they don't and never have. The two parties overlap in their beliefs - there has never been true choice. There was the veneer of democracy, but the system has been rigged for decades if not a century or more. There are 2 parties who have dominated in every state and at every level, and play voters off against each other. Anyone interested in politics has no choice but to join the red team or the blue team - if they don't they'll never achieve anything. The 2 parties have pushed beyond first-past-the-post to extremes with gerrymandering to ensure no 3rd party will ever get a look in. The Democrats and Republicans have written all the rules to suite themselves, and it's ended up that the extreme end of one party can dominate the lot and do what it wants.
1/3 of voters vote Democrat, 1/3 Republican and 1/3 don't vote because why bother. The US President has immense power, and their primary checks and balances are entirely partisan and always have been. The Supreme Court has always been partisan with Democrat and Republican political appointees, and Congress is by it's nature partisan and divided in 2 between the 2 parties due to the entire system. The players of the game have set all the rules.
If you want to see what comes next, look at Russia. It never had a strong system post communism, and Yeltsin was drunk and out of touch with reality towards the end of his tenure. Putin was his advisor and managed to manipulate Yeltsin and make himself his heir apparent. Putin has then gone on to dismantle even the semblance of democracy they had, becoming a dictator and now an aggressor invading country after country. And unlike Hitler, his opponents in the west are divided.
Trump is a disaster, but what we should all be really worried about is what comes next. Trump is the USA's Yeltsin; it's the US Putin who comes next we should all be terrified of.
I honestly don't see any way back from the abyss in the USA. Anyone who wants to stop Trump of course has to vote Democrat because that's the system. But whose to say the US Putin won't be a Democrat? Red team or Blue team - it doesn't matter; neither believe in democracy they just believe in the game.
US Voters had a choice and a say and a plurality voted for literal Hitler while almost 9 Million people who voted hitler out in 2020 didn't show up at all for 2024.
Too bad we didn't have people like you to fix it for us. Tell us, how did you fight the Nazis this week?
I personally punched one of them during a protest. How have you helped? If everyone on lemmy punched just one nazi we'd by out of this by dinner time. But lots of you guys dont want to.
Sounds real
Yes, during the second most widespread protests in us history, with the second most counter protestors, it seems so incredibly unlikely a few fights happened. But somehow they did.
By Liberals, I assume the people who were saying that Gaza didn't matter if Trump got elected again?