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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is dumb as shit ofc, but it gave me an idea that's probably nearly equally dumb as shit:

Regular bicycle, but with an extra gear that can selectively connect to the chain or wheel or w/e, that's connected to a coil torsion spring on a kind of ratchet release.

Basically you flip the switch when it's a good time to rob some energy like when you're on level ground or going down hill. That energy makes you a tad less efficient (but you don't care cuz it's level or downhill), and uses that energy to wind up the coil torsion spring up until a max amount of torque is stored.

Fast forward a bit: now you're approaching an incline, so you flip the switch the other direction and that torsion spring regurgitates that energy back into forward motion, giving you a nice forward burst when going up a hill.

Not free energy by any stretch, but a strategic use of what you're already spending.

Feel free to explain why this is a horrible idea - I'm about as far from a physicist as it gets.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Essentially regenerative braking. Should work, though the question is how coat effective.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wrong question.

Right question: When the fully torqued spring inevitably fails, who is liable for the deaths of the rider and nearby pedestrians?

[–] 01189998819991197253 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wrong question. That one is answered with a EULA.

Right question: how often can we make that torque spring break, forcing the buyer to buy another one, without them realizing it's failure by design?

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Wrong question.

Right question: How do we embed an LLM to decide when to break the spring so that we can score a 100B investment from OpenAI.

[–] 01189998819991197253 3 points 2 weeks ago

Bahaha!! You got me! That's actually a really good one hahahahah!

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Wrong question.

Right question: What if we used a giant flywheel? That can't be dangerous, right?

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

F1 has been using this principle for years

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's just regenerative braking on a bike. Without batteries.

In theory that idea isn't actually bad although I suspect in practise the mechanism would be extremely complicated and would be liable to jamming it in opportune moments. That said doing this electronically is already a thing, although not really in e-bikes.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

pretty sure hybrid cars have regenerative braking - the car uses the motion to recharge the battery when braking, going downhill, or coasting

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why flip a switch when you can just let the bike sense if it is going up or down hill?

Would make hilly terrain a much smoother ride.

Then again, if you do all that electrical, you already just have an electric bike. Which is even more versatile on flat ground.