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I hate to say it, but she's right. Trump was very clear about his plans. Anyone paying attention knew what was going to happen. Any sane person with a pulse would have won the election if the public wasn't so apathetic, ignorant, and/or misinformed.
I don't think all of the apathy is inherent. Some of that's on her and the democratic party demoralizing their constituents. Yes, following game theory it is in their best interest to vote for the lesser evil and against the greater evil. I am politically active and I get that, so I voted.
Regardless, it still bothers me that a not insignificant portion of the Democratic party also knows this and takes advantage of this by coasting and doing the bare minimum. They seem more willing to spend their resources countering internal threats from progressives. It's not easy to stay motivated to support a party openly hostile to your own values.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of them would rather have a fascist opponent. Then voting comes down to, basically, vote for me because the alternative is fascism. How dare you question my policies (or lack thereof) or my soft stance our ally's obvious genocide? I'm your only hope. Vote for me or else.
It only works for so long, then apathy takes over.
But doesn't that just prove the point? These shitty Dems are allowed to exist because people don't vote.
Yes, in part, and also because the party is actively trying to prevent those voters from getting the progressive candidates they want. It's more blatant these days (Bush, Bowman, Mamdani) than it has been in the past, but it was still happening. They don't want pressure from the left. They broke their promise to not support primary opponents (over incumbents) specifically when progressives started gaining ground. Many are openly hesitant to endorse Mamdani now if they aren't openly skeptical or critical. Vote blue no matter who, eh?
More specially, people don't vote in primaries or local elections.
Not that we really got a presidential primary in 2024, but yes.
Yeah... more thinking back to 2020 on the general. Not that we had that many options by the time they made it to my state.
The average American reads at a 7th grade reading level. You can bitch about it being the electorate's fault when you lose an election, but there have always been uneducated voters and there always will be. If you're a politician, you need to be able to reach all kinds of people; not just those with graduate degrees.
Democrats think doing politics is beneath them. They just need to be marginally better than Republicans and if they don't get elected then it's the voter's fault.
It's neither of those three. People thought they had the moral high ground by not voting for either evil. These people weren't apathetic, ignorant, or misinformed. They were evil, selfish, and shortsighted.