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EU parliament votes to ban meat names for plant-based foods (www.bbc.co.uk)
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[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah, someone will see the massive “made from plants” and go: “huh, never heard of that animal”.

"Made from plants" is light colour text on a white background. This is maybe slightly more obvious than white text on a light colour background, but it is still less prominent than any of the black text (which is all the "meat" words).

And you're moving goalposts now. Before, you said they all said "veggie", and I replied that there was no visible word that said "veg" (ie the first part of the words "veggie", "vegetarian" or "vegan") on the parts of packaging show on display.

You are arguing in bad faith.

Read what I wrote again…

What you said was quoted in my last comment. Here it is again, so you can't try and twist the argument:

I’m not talking about ready-made meals or other meal types. I’m talking about “raw products”. Things like “meatballs with cheese” are not a raw product and you won’t find them in the meat fridge, they’ll be with the frozen meals section

The meatballs with cheese I'm talking about are raw, fresh, and in the fridge section. They are not in the frozen section. They are next to other raw meats. The section is like a ready for oven raw food section, some packs have raw chicken, some have raw gammon steaks, this one I'm talking about has raw meatballs with raw cheese inside them.

Regulation (EC) No 853/2004

Lazy. You've just searched up a regulation with a relevant title, you haven't actually identified any part of the regulation that supports your argument. I haven't found one.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Before, you said they all said “veggie”

Yeah, my bad, I didn't expect someone see "plant" and fail to associate it with vegetarian diet.

I should've said: "they are clearly marked in a way that attempts making it obvious that the product is not meat-based". But, again, I mistakenly assumed that this was obvious. Sorry about that!

The meatballs with cheese I’m talking about are raw, fresh, and in the fridge section

Define "fridge section", because I don't know what that means. Ice cream fridges? Meat fridges? Soft drinks fridges? Ready meal fridges?

They are next to other raw meats

Are they jumbled together with the raw meats?

The section is like a ready for oven raw food section

Ah, here you have the answer.

Again, sorry for my assumptions. Unfortunately, my crystal ball is in the shop for maintenance, so I couldn't tell what kind of "meatball with cheese" product you were talking about, and assumed it's some form of frozen food that the markets I go to tend to have together with frozen pizzas, chicken nuggets, etc.,

But the important part is this: it's in its own, separate section, which you said yourself.

Lazy. You’ve just searched up a regulation with a relevant title, you haven’t actually identified any part of the regulation that supports your argument. I haven’t found one.

Yeah, I can see that you're lazy, good for you for admitting that.

You said that you wanted the regulation, I gave you the regulation, now you want the specific sections of the text. Remind me again, who's moving goalposts?

The entire text pertains to how meat and meat products are supposed to be stored, how different elements and kinds of meat must be kept separate. To "quote the part that supports my argument" I'd need to quote the entire text...

You didn't answer my question:

I don’t think there is actually any regulation (…) And I don’t think there should be.

Why? You don’t like having better sanitary conditions and instead would prefer for various diseases, viruses and bacteria having an easier time spreading?

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You are very clearly arguing in bad faith, as evidenced by your bending over backwards to be contrarian and scarecrowing the argument you're fighting against. I'm not wasting any more time with you, which is sad, because this conversation started off well.

And that regulation covers meat production and transport, I couldn't find anything in there relating to how meat products must be shelved in shops. Which is what we were talking about. My issue isn't that you didn't quote a specific part of the regulation, it's that the regulation you quoted doesn't seem to cover what you're arguing it does. And the fact that you're arguing this way pretty much confirms that you didn't even read the source you're quoting.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago

You are very clearly arguing in bad faith (...)

...

You know what? You're right. This conversation makes no sense anymore. EOT on my part.