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Even if the US somehow manages to have another election and elect a sane president, it will be an almost impossible task to undo all the damage the Trump regime did.
I believe that is the point of all of this
They literally laid it all out in Project 2025. There are some nuances to how it's unfolding but this is what they wanted.
Exactly. I don't know why anybody is surprised about this shit. They literally wrote down what they'd do once they came back into power. Project 2025 is their Mein Kampf.
Yeah I think this is the headline that finally did it for me. Hurting Democrats isn't enough, hurting minorities isn't enough. They want the country to no longer exist. They want a smouldering pile of rubble left, literally preferably, but they'll accept metaphorical if that's all they can get. The point of this administration is to destroy America and kill as many citizens in the process as humanly possible.
No matter how bad it's seemed I swear fucking God the next day it's proven worse than that. At no point was it possible to accurately assess how royally fucked we are or how evil these Nazis are. And you'll have Republicans defending all this shit even if they personally are being sent to the gulag. They'd say we're overreacting even as they themselves are having the executioner's hood forced over their heads. I don't understand how it would be possible to use the power of government in more evil ways.
I don't think it's quite that Captain Planet.
The ruling elite in the US are all several generations down the line of nepotism. None of them have ever had to experience consequences, nor learn a lesson, they are just stupid rich people who think they're rich on their own merits.
There are a few very rich very evil people who are playing them like puppets though and they're too stupid to notice.
Oh, wait that is pretty Captain Planet.
I noticed nothing you said contradicts my assertion that they actively want people dead. Nothing about being rich means you need to go out of your way to mass murder. I don't even see how they could profit from this decision
Technically correct! The best kind of correct.
That is precisely the reason for the existential dread this has brought to my life as I ponder what kind of world will be left to my kids when I die.
I can't even rest assured that people in power after Trump will not be Trumpists, and even if I could be assured of that, I'm not at all sure we're going to get all this shit fixed before whatever the next catastrophe is.
I expect to die of old age in a world where we have not yet returned to at least as good as where things were when Trump took over. (and there was already a lot of fucked up shit then.)
And as someone who has spent nearly six decades rooting for humanity in most ways, I'm pretty fucking disappointed that we dropped the ball this hard on this one.
With a bit of luck, they can use this to regrow it better. it'll still be a gigantic task.
I really think revolutionaries massively underestimate how much of society is built on well functioning and enduring institutions, and how much more difficult it is to build them from scratch compared to reforming them (in many, but not all cases).
That being said, the US is a basket case, so perhaps a revolution might be worth it.
Still sceptical, though.
(This is my biggest disagreement with some other socialists I've met where I live, which is not the US)
Not in my lifetime. I do hope leaders emerge who can harness the modern levers to our brains in a constructive way, but even if that started next year at the midterms, the decades of work ahead just to get back to the institutional knowledge and regulatory protections that existed last year exceed my life expectancy. The hope is that happens so my nieces and nephews will benefit.