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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37367499

This is building consent for a US war on Venezuela.

Nobel war prize more like, considering the people they award this to.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The irrepairable brain damage in a simpleton starts with: First, the CIA are part of team "good guys". Next the simpleton does not notice the 100% corelation between simpleton understood democratic leaders and moderate opposition parties forming pro CIA policies, and simpleton understanding of autocratic leaders with extremist parties who oppose CIA policies.

Selling PVDSA to Chevron is only a good idea for someone who could have the power to broker the deal and get a nice bribe to get Chevron the best deal possible instead of the people of Venezeula getting the best deal possible. Chevron will simply have a supremacist advantage in bribery power.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm having a hard time parsing this. Are you implying democracy is bad because the Venezuelan people have more bargaining power under a dictatorship?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Just because the CIA tells you an election is rigged, because and only because they lost at rigging it, doesn't actually mean that there is no democracy. Similar to Trump 2020 complaints. Narco terrorists that campaign on gifting PVDSA to the US is not that much of a shock. The corrupt CIA outcome being the only democratic outcome is how every NATO country operates.

Would democracy in the US be stronger if Trump had awaited all of his trials in military prison, or had fallen out a window? If Christozionist establishment didn't make Charlie Kirk a Protestant saint? Establishment definitely exterminates speech they don't like, and more of that happens in US than elsewhere. Since the CIA does not love Venezuelans, exterminating CIA traitor speech is more democratic than not doing so.

Repeating the first step, The CIA/US empire are not on the "good guys team". Everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie, but especially commentary on any election results they don't like. You cannot proceed to enlightenment without getting past the first step.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It just seems like Maduro having his opposition and many members of election staff arrested before the results are announced isn't a thing that happens in a fair democracy.

And that's not by the account of the CIA, it's by the account of Maduro and his administration.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

that’s not by the account of the CIA, it’s by the account of Maduro and his administration.

Traitorous CIA stooges getting arrested for their obvious treason being complained about by CIA and their NGOs doesn't make exterminating traitorous scum "undemocratic". During 2020 DNC administration, continuing to act as controlled opposition to GOP instead of exterminating Trump, 2016 administration GOP criminals, Jan 6th tourists, even after SCOTUS gave Biden (sitting president) the power to so, has made the US less democratic today than 1930s Germany.

The US is the most corrupt country in history. A common exaggeration is that Trump is a Putin/FSB agent. It's an exaggeration because Zionaziism media and electoral financing control provides total control over US including DNC control to just lose if that is best for Israel. But Neocon/CIA war on Russia is stupid, and Trump resisting that gets plenty of establishment push back.

For some reason, CIA nobel committee did not consider Putin for peace prize. Russian political establishment would consider him only viable candidate. If nobel committee was more fascist than CIA controlled, they might have given Trump the peace prize in 2020 for his "hard work on election accountability". What would be proof of Trump is a traitor to America is saying "Russia, if you're listening, please nuke DC so that we can be liberated from DNC tyranny"

This exactly what this demonic pig fucking CIA sycophantic committee did this year. The CIA vision for world peace is not a humanist objective reality vision.