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[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists for not voting a genocide supporter out of principle instead of the establishment for running Ms. "We will build the deadliest armed forces in the world during an ongoing genocide that I support".

Bernie was the compromise, and the dem establishment essentially antidemocratically couped him out. Now the dems deal with the consequences: they'd rather see Trump in office than a progressive (look at the collabbing between dems and reps in derailing Mamdani).

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists for not voting a genocide supporter out of principle instead of the establishment for running Ms. "We will build the deadliest armed forces in the world during an ongoing genocide that I support".

TRUMP IS ACTIVELY COMMITTING MORE GENOCIDE AND ON US SOIL.

BOYCOTTNG VOTING BLUE OBJECTIVELY ENABLED MORE FUCKING GENOCIDE

Get it through your thick fucking skull that you people chose the PRO-GENOCIDE option.

No one should ever take you people seriously ever again. We have MORE GENOCIDE NOW because KAMALA LOST AND TRUMP WON.

Wanna know how we'd have ended up with less genocide?

LEFTIST COULD'VE VOTED FOR KAMALA AND MADE HER WIN.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You have more police violence in the US, not more genocide. There is no genocide in the US going on unless you count 20% of black males going to prison at some point in their lives, which is happening since many administrations ago and hasn't really changed that much since Trump. You had the highest number of deportations during Obama, didn't you?

Not everything we dislike about the US political system is genocide, I want to abolish the USA to be clear, but again: the fault of dems not being elected is Democratic elites who refuse to bring anything remotely palatable to the table. It was not "sabotage" that ruined the Dems chances of winning unless by sabotage you mean the internal one destroying every progressive candidate.

I didn't choose shit and I didn't sabotage shit, I'm a Spaniard in Spain without desire or right to vote in your country, that's why it's flagrantly obvious to me that choosing the least appealing possible candidate will result in elections being lost.

Leftists couldn't have voted for Kamala because they didn't vote for Kamala, it is the dems who lost the elections lmao

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Quick google search:

You can bring isolated instances as much as you want, macro data points to this being a bipartisan issue and nothing having fundamentally changed.

This is not an endorsement of Trump, this is a blanket condemnation of the entire US government apparatus, which should be entirely dissolved.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My dude, ICE just got a budget that dwarfs the marines specifically to become Trump's Gestapo and genocide force: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-funding-world-militaries-b2790466.html

And "isolated incidents"?

My dude, I want you to ask yourself, really ask yourself, were the rights of immigrants more compromised last year, or this year?

Did they have more of a legal framework to rely on to ensure their own safety and safety for their loved ones this year or last year?

We're facilities being built en masse specifically for an unparalleled mass deportation campaign (which is how the Holocaust started BTW) last year or did that start this year?

Ask yourself, was the active president trying to normalize sending the military to confront protestors last year or this year?

Shit, don't just ask yourself, ask immigrants. Ask scholars who specialize in the history of genocide.

You're too hyper-focused on simple raw data while conveniently ignoring the context of the reality behind it, and your data isn't even up to date for the current year who's data would most be important to have for this conversation.

Not to mention the very likely discrepancy that people detained by ICE and sent to concentration camps are likely not gonna show up on data talking specifically about US prisons for US crimes. Especially when you consider THE VAST MAJORITY THAT ICE HAS KIDNAPPED HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORD: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-ice-immigration-arrest-data-1.7584212

Why tf would they show up on that data?

Also, do you genuinely believe ICE when they report back that their victims are alive and ok, when 1.2k ARE FUCKING MISSING FROM ALLIGATOR AUSCHWITZ? Which we only know about because it was closed down for environmental regulations.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 3 points 10 hours ago

I commend your care about the minorities in the US, I'm just trying to show that this isn't an exclusive Trump issue, the US system literally puts 1 in 5 black men through the prison system throughout their lives. I'm not endorsing Trump, I'm not endorsing ICE, both are fascist organizations. It's just that the entire US apparatus is fascist and now it's strengthening its repression inwards, which has USians worried. As a non-USian, it's sad to see, but it's what Democrats enabled by not doing literally anything during their rule and putting forth an unelectable pro-genocide candidate talking of fascist points such as the infamous "I will ensure that the USA has the most lethal armed forces in the world" to which the crowd in the DNC responded "USA, USA, USA". The way to fight fascists historically isn't to elect less fascist right wing, not even social democrats, but to organize in communist and anarchist unions, parties and organizations.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Keep blaming a 1% of internet leftists

I know we’re just throwing numbers around here but wasn’t the margin like 1%?

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 2 points 12 hours ago

The difference of dem voters between last and previous elections is surely higher than that.