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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37367499

This is building consent for a US war on Venezuela.

Nobel war prize more like, considering the people they award this to.

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[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Idk, pretty much the only two things I know about her are:

  1. She opposes Maduro, and Maduro certainly doesn't want any form of democracy: he used his power arrest opposition and election officials right before the results were called last time. Official charges were terrorism.

  2. She won the prize that Trump wanted.

So she sounds good to me.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The irrepairable brain damage in a simpleton starts with: First, the CIA are part of team "good guys". Next the simpleton does not notice the 100% corelation between simpleton understood democratic leaders and moderate opposition parties forming pro CIA policies, and simpleton understanding of autocratic leaders with extremist parties who oppose CIA policies.

Selling PVDSA to Chevron is only a good idea for someone who could have the power to broker the deal and get a nice bribe to get Chevron the best deal possible instead of the people of Venezeula getting the best deal possible. Chevron will simply have a supremacist advantage in bribery power.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm having a hard time parsing this. Are you implying democracy is bad because the Venezuelan people have more bargaining power under a dictatorship?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just because the CIA tells you an election is rigged, because and only because they lost at rigging it, doesn't actually mean that there is no democracy. Similar to Trump 2020 complaints. Narco terrorists that campaign on gifting PVDSA to the US is not that much of a shock. The corrupt CIA outcome being the only democratic outcome is how every NATO country operates.

Would democracy in the US be stronger if Trump had awaited all of his trials in military prison, or had fallen out a window? If Christozionist establishment didn't make Charlie Kirk a Protestant saint? Establishment definitely exterminates speech they don't like, and more of that happens in US than elsewhere. Since the CIA does not love Venezuelans, exterminating CIA traitor speech is more democratic than not doing so.

Repeating the first step, The CIA/US empire are not on the "good guys team". Everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie, but especially commentary on any election results they don't like. You cannot proceed to enlightenment without getting past the first step.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 points 10 hours ago

It just seems like Maduro having his opposition and many members of election staff arrested before the results are announced isn't a thing that happens in a fair democracy.

And that's not by the account of the CIA, it's by the account of Maduro and his administration.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hell the only thing I know about her is that she's flattering a fascist dictator and and seems to be hinting around asking said fascist dictator to invade her country. Sounds pretty fucking abysmal to me.

[–] KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Oh that's not the only thing:

In 2011, she campaigned as a promotor of "popular capitalism".[104] Machado supports the privatization of state-run entities in Venezuela, including oil company PDVSA.[70][103] Machado has supported the international sanctions during the Venezuelan crisis,[70]

The international sanctions lead to widespread hunger in her country. She's evil.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's getting played, like every other deal he ever makes.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm a consequentialist, hard to say if Mad's regime would survive overnight if it meant war with the USA, but certainly can't be any worse than leaving him in charge.

[–] KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The woman supported sanction that lead to widespread hunger in her own country

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/venezuela-un-expert-calls-human-rights-not-charity-end-hunger-and

Hitler before the popular front innit? Anticommunists always end up supporting the weirdest people lmao

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Ah yes I remember when Hitler came into power by removing Joseph Stalin. /sarcasm

It's not a strange stance to hardline on that leaders should be democratically elected and never serve more than 2 terms.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh it's so so could be worse.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, it could be so much worse with Madorko in power, at any moment, it could also be so much worse with any other absolute leader in power. There are no different levels of evil at play here that we need to be worried to the point of leaving him in power just to be safe. So, Venezuelans better get to playing musical chairs until their government lands on a real democracy.

[–] KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Let me guess, the "real democracy" will sell the oil industry to the USA.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Idgaf where the sell or buy to and from. Right now the USA's in a pretty shitty state, I think I'd rather they didn't, but that sort of whataboutism to defend dictatorships is just Tankie-ism.

EDIT: Didn't Maduro offer to sell his counrty's natural resources to the USA in return for recognizing his victory?

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

*retard you mean

[–] KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Of course she does. You always have shit takes.

The only reason she's there is because she want to privatize the petrol industry. Americans are thirty for oil, episode 29

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The USA doesn't determine who gets the Nobel prize

[–] KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The USA are the one imposing their diplomatic narrative. This is a clearly a political nomination. She supported the sanctions that literally starved her own country. She's a piece of shit.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/venezuela-un-expert-calls-human-rights-not-charity-end-hunger-and

https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/for-many-families-every-meal-is-a-struggle-in-venezuelas-economic-crisis/

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

She might be shitty but the narrative that she was chosen because ofAmerican interests makes no sense when Americans do not choose who gets the award.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I swear I seen that moron around