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[–] NotACIAPlant@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Again, Japan was backed into a corner with the embargo. They thought that Pearl Harbor wouldn't start a war. So the answer to your question (at least with Japan), is that "they didn't".

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Japan was backed into a corner with the embargo

backed into a corner?

The embargo could have stopped as soon as their imperial ambitions on manchuria ended.

ah, they wanted to steal a chunk of china/korea, AND keep that cheap american crude flowing?

see you don't get things both ways sparky. They weren't baked into a corner any more than the US was backed into a corner by opec in the 70s - because being backed into a corner MEANS something. It's called death ground. This is a real thing, if you were anything but a random schmuck on the internet claiming not to be a cia plant, you might have studied it at the state dept or army war college.

being backed into a corner means you have no other choice; being on death ground - your only option remaining is to fight until the last.

japan was not backed into a corner, any more than it was on death ground - but they'd find out what both those terms meant in 5 short years. think of it, 5 short years to turn the entire production of this continent onto two TEENY TINY targets - japan and germany.

[–] NotACIAPlant@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I don't think you realize how much this undercuts your argument.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They thought that Pearl Harbor wouldn't start a war.

What did they think they were going to accomplish, then?

[–] NotACIAPlant@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That it would force USA to negotiations about the oil embargo

If true, that was incredibly dumb of them