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I saw what was happening. I saw people informing the public of what was happening. Then, I saw the Republicans win the election.
I don't know if someday I'll be able to forgive people for it, but I don't forgive a single cocksucking one, rn.
This attitude is a gift to fascists. Save your scorn for the nazis who were able to subvert our shitty electoral system.
A gift to the fascists was almost 9 million people who voted for Biden staying home when the time came to vote for Harris. Trump's vote barely changed from 2020. The 2024 Nonvoters chose everything bad that happens under the Trump admin, they were the great deciders and they chose this.
How many people did you drive to the polls?
I don't drive, but I did help 7 people fill out absentee ballot requests months in advance.
Are you aware we never got the ballot rejection rates like we normally do for elections? Trumpers had massive efforts in trying to have ballots challenged and rejected, particularly for signatures not perfectly matching on the ballot vs a driver's license on the absentee/mail in ballots. There's also Rockland County election lawsuit. Idk that he actually won.
It's entirely possible the ballots you sent in got rejected, unfortunately.
It's a pretty hard argument to make in the face of a 9 Million vote difference between Biden 2020 and Harris 2024, especially when Aggregate Polling and Betting Odds both predicted the exact outcome we saw.
It's also not actionable. The solution is more people voting for the DNC presidential candidate, claiming the vote was rigged does not further that goal and conversely helps Trump.
Polls had Kamala ahead. The guy who owns Polymarket is in bed with Trump and that could've been a money making scheme/scam re: bets.
Additionally, Dominion voting machines were just bought by a Trump group, Liberty Vote.
https://www.npr.org/2025/10/09/nx-s1-5569817/dominion-voting-liberty-vote-false-claims
I never said it was actionable, although we certainly need to be aware of it for future elections. I'm saying your hatred at society is perhaps misplaced somewhat, because there's clues that he did indeed steal some votes.
It doesn't help Trump to point this out, or Trump would be yelling it from the rooftops.
You seem to have decided that the fact that aggregate polling showed Trump likely to win does not agree with your perceived reality. Good luck living with dissonance. https://www.270towin.com/maps/harris-trump-polling-no-tossups Something to keep in mind is even if the polls showed Harris as more popular that the same polls still predict a Trump EC Victory https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/ click the "view polls" link in red under a category to see full lists of the polls for that category.
I watched it like a hawk for all of 2024 and it was actually further in Trump's favor in the beginning and tightened towards the end.
Multiple gambling platforms reported Trump odds as higher, and there is no profit incentive to misreporting Trump's odds of winning on betting platforms. Betting doesn't work like that.
If your political ideology isn't actionable then stop arguing with me about this.
It absolutely does dissuade people from voting if you tell them that the voting is all rigged. I don't expect Trump to know a single fucking thing about what is good for him, he's a moron and now he's going senile on top of it.
No, it was and is my genuine impression that polls had Kamala leading slightly, at least right before the election. I didn't watch the polls before that because it isn't "actionable."
I'm aware of the electoral college issue, that doesn't change the original sentiment that all of America deserves vitriol when it's possible many were disenfranchised.
They reported Trump odds as higher because their buddies were betting on him because they had insider knowledge. Elon paid over $100million for an online astroturfing organization and to siphon money from Dems, you don't think he was placing multiple million dollar bets knowing the election interference they had? I know how bets work. I also know how cheating on bets work. Every gambler is aware of cheating and assumes cheating. The entire Polymarket situation is suspicious. That they flooded other betting markets when their edge went down from their own bet volume is expected.
Anyway, polls and bets aren't proof that he didn't steal the election - the court cases and defunded the election security teams including the ballot rejection rates is. And disenfranchisement matters, and has for decades, it's civil rights 101.
The truth matters even if you don't immediately come up with an idea to act on it.
Ignoring votes being stolen in Trump's favor helps him. Refusing to point out issues that benefit him and disenfranchise people helps him.
Everyone should vote, no one is saying not to vote. In fact, being upset about disenfranchisement addresses a lack of votes directly. It's motivation to have fair elections.