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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

How would they even define a sausage anyway, meat content? Well now blood sausage is not a sausage too despite being almost entirely animal product - probably more than most sausages actually given how much filler they put in them.

Or shall we rename all the cheap sausages in shops to "emulsified high fat offal tubes" to more accurately describe them?

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And blood sausage is a very good example to show that "sausage" is an established appendix to show the shape of something, while specifying what it's made of with a term beforehand. Pork sausage. Beef sausage. Turkey sausage. Blood sausage. This works so well that I can invent words of artificial things and still convey what I mean by that: Paper sausage. Ice sausage. Cloth sausage. Glass sausage. ...Chickpea sausage. Broccoli sausage. Bean sausage.

It's a non-brainer. The legislators are being deliberately obtuse here.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Also traditionally it would've been in an intestine, but they've been making other sorts of casings for meat-based sausages for a while anyway, so that argument against plant based sausages is dead in the water too IMO

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Or shall we rename all the cheap sausages in shops to "emulsified high fat offal tubes" to more accurately describe them?

Nah, this would hurt meat lobbyist' feelings.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well now blood sausage is not a sausage too despite being almost entirely animal product

The EU document specifically mentions that blood based products counts as meat, so blood sausage is fine.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's fucking stupid. Blood isn't meat, it's blood. How can something liquid be meat?

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For the purposes of this part, β€˜meat’ means edible parts of the animals referred to in points 1.2 to 1.8 of Annex I to Regulation (EC) No 853/2004, including blood.

In the end it's a legal document and the terms are defined for the purpose of the regulation, not necessarily how the terms are used in daily life.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Hot take, I don't think legal documents should get a pass to redefine words and use them differently than how they're used in daily life. I'm sure they do it on purpose specifically to make it harder for laymen to parse those types of documents, which is stupid.

It would be easier and clearer to write this regulatory document using common parlance, and then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Where do you live that blood sausage has more animal product than regular sausages (where the filler is often bone mass and such)? Blood sausage filler where I come from is usually barley groats (or some other format of barley. Barley is really universal apparently).

Picked out a random one they sell here. Contents: barley groats, "food blood" (19%), pork rind, pork (8%), roasted onion, pork fat, salt, various spices

These are generally listed in rough order of importance, so blood sausage is basically more barley groats than animal products.

Now for comparison, the cheapest smoked sausage out there (the sandwich sausage variety, not grill or oven). Contents: chicken meat mass (39%), pork (18%), pork fat, water, cheese (6%), various shit you don't even want to think or know about.

It's utterly cheap shit (the chicken meat mass of course includes shit like soft-ish bones ground up, etc), but even this is more animal-y than blood sausages.