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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] glowie -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cope however you want but the fact remains driving a Ford means supporting Nazis. His involvement with the Nazis was no small amount, regardless how long ago it was. Slavery was centuries ago, yet white people are still vilified for their ancestors. How is it any different?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not the one coping here dude. My choice of car today doesn't give any money to a guy who's been dead for 3/4 of a century.

Also, I don't drive a Ford anyway so go grasp at straws somewhere else.

[–] glowie -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The cope isn’t about driving a Ford, it’s about supporting a company that directly profited from actual Nazis. The virtuous thing is to not support a company who progressed through blood money.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, as I already said, I don't own a Ford. So I'm not sure how you think I'm supporting them.

But even then, your point is nonsensical because the Nazi supporters are dead and the current CEO wasn't even born until long after Henry died and the war ended.

Unless you want to get into North Korea style multi generational punishment. But I think we all agree that's a bad thing.

So unless you can articulate how Ford Motor Company today is actively supporting Nazis, we're done.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

They chose a funny example too with Ford when the more appropriate one would be Tesla with it being in current events. But, they went with a dead person because it doesn't help their argument.