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Cancelled because a black man killing the Klan, after all the morons complaining about Yasuke, was going to be too controversial of a video game in our (Americans') "unstable" country.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never made it too far into RDR2, but RDR1 is a VERY white game. Like, frigging Tom Jane's Gun did a better job of acknowledging there was melanin in The Wild West and that game... does not age well. Was RDR2 significantly different?

Because, inherently, a LOT of wild west stories are set in or around The Reconstruction and have The Civil War as a major aspect. In large part because that is what contributed to so many guns (and people who knew how to use them) in an environment where there were a lot of scores to settle and an expectation that the government would actively hinder anything.

Whereas this sounds like a continuation of the AssFlag DLC where you straight up murder slavers in Haiti. Which, in turn, is a logical fallout of the origins of The Assassins mostly being about personal freedom and humanity and The Templar being a controlling fascist force that goes way back to Ass Creed 1.

You know... the game where the real bad guys were actually the brown people who were manipulating everyone and King Richard was actually a pretty good guy with a really hot right hand woman.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll agree RDR1 didn't do much (except the Mexico plight). RDR2 was much better. I can honestly say that I've never felt as much joy than punching klansman and just absolutely destroying racists

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I literally got stuck in the first area of the new Indiana Jones game because I just couldn't stop dropping my disguise so I could beat the shit out of Italian fascists.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago

Fair enough. I don't recall people getting angry over the existence of black people in RDR2 but I also mostly just tune out the folk who can at all stand the controls of that game (one day I'll try again).

Because I do think having actual people of color with even a modicum of agency makes a huge difference. Like, going back to RDR1, Bonnie is basically the epitome of "strong woman written by men". There are so many hints that she is kind of a badass and she definitely has her moments, but basically anything of import is done by John and she increasingly is depicted as someone who needs her big strong outlaw to save her. Which is the same thing when you have Steve Rogers punch a klansman versus having Sam Wilson get his punch on.

Which, to get back to AssCreed, is funnily enough a recurring problem with the games from basically the end of Desmond up until Odyssey. AssFlag was a really fun game with really cool characters but it increasingly became obvious that Whitey McKenway (I am too lazy to look up his name) is almost a secondary character in the story about Mary Read and Anne Bonny and even Adewale (who did get a DLC that nobody played). Like, here are characters who have VERY personal stakes that can explore the societal problems inherent to the world and... we get snippets of their story while Whitey just works toward knocking someone up because he is Connor's ancestor.

And that very much continued with the Egypt one where The Wife was a MUCH MUCH MUCH cooler character who actually drove the story while we played as The Husband whose claim to fame is he chopped off his finger to go back to something that had already been borderline retconned out of the series.