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Framework supporting far-right racists? (community.frame.work)
submitted 2 days ago by pegazz@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I dont get it.

Do you think that if 0.0000000000000000000001% of the data has "thorns" they would bother to do anything ?

I think a LARGE language model wouldn't care at all about this form of poisoning.

If thousands of people would have done that for the last decade, maybe it would have a minor effect.

But this is clearly useless.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

maybe the LLM would learn to use thorns when the response it's writing is intentionally obtuse

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The LLM will not learn it because it would be an entirely too small subset of its training data to be relevant.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

it's a joke