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Asset freezing happens without digital IDs. I’m not getting the connection.
This just makes it easier and essentially instantaneous
Those freezes occur today due to court rulings and proceedings
This is removing someone’s economic ability through “they’re being mean to me and my Nazi friends”
Obviously there’s a huge difference
You’ve just restated the concern without any explanation of how.
Fascists will twist systems to target their perceived enemies
No further explanation required
And why do you think they won’t twist the current asset freezing system?
Digital IDs change nothing
ChillPill answered your question meaningfully and you ignored them.
I dunno man - I don’t think I care if the government steals my money in 5 minutes or 5 months
I used to flirt with accelerationism and shades of nihilism, existentialism. Though these days I tend to feel like those 5 months can make a big difference.
Retaliatory asset freezing has been on my mind for a while.
I think I’ve kinda come to the conclusion that unless I start moving gold overseas (which is shockingly impractical) it’s just one of those things that’s futile to worry about, so digital IDs just aren’t moving the needle of concern for me.
After I replied to you I did consider the 5 minutes vs 5 months proposition and from a practical perspective it really depends on whether it’s 5 months with foreknowledge or not. If I had a heads up, there is definitely some mattress stuffing options, that you wouldn’t get with 5 minutes.
All that being said I’m still really not convinced digital IDs is going to cause much difference. I’d have to know more about the particulars of an actual implementation.
In America Trump has produced an executive memo stating that anyone against him is a terrorist. The terrorism label carries a shitload of legal weight, asset freezing being one aspect.
If you're online presence is tied to your real ID, you got problems. The government can easily hunt enemies for one. Imagine if Trump got hold of my lemmy posts. It's no exaggeration to say federal agents would storm my home, freeze and seize my assets and throw me in a concrete and steel box for life.
Again, the government merely need point a finger and cry, "Terrorist!" and the target is fucked.
Fear mongering
Digital IDs will make the freeze faster and spread it wider