United States | News & Politics

3391 readers

1016 users here now

Welcome to !usa@midwest.social, where you can share and converse about the different things happening all over/about the United States.

If you’re interested in participating, please subscribe.

Rules

Be respectful and civil. No racism/bigotry/hateful speech.

No memes.

Post news related to the United States.

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

simsymbiote@midwest.social

Type1@midwest.social

exposingfash@midwest.social

201

"Antifa has been around for almost a hundred years in some instances, going back to the Weimar Republic in Germany." —a dude arguing that antifa is bad (blacksky.community)

submitted 3 days ago by november@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/usa@midwest.social

36 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With Nietzsche as the godfather

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with that; what's the relationship between Nietzsche and fascism?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Nietzsches sister was a fascist and claimed her brother was too (edit: after his death). A cursory glance from the Nazis showed them the concept of the Übermensch so they ran with it, but there’s not actually much there to support fascism. Nietzsche was a dick and there are all sorts of horrible things he wrote about non white men, but he wasn’t really a Nazi.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I've got my Nietzsche right, then wouldn't the idea of Ubermensch as something you can become rather than something you are not really line up with fascism anyway? Seems like they just took a word that sounded cool if anything.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but the thing about fascists is, they’re dumb, so they didn’t think about it any further.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's a ton in Nietzsche to support fascism, starting with his virulent hatred of democracy, socialism, and liberalism.

He is simply the most important philosopher for the creation of fascism, including Giovanni Gentile, who gave Mussolini all his ideas.

That's not to say he was a fascist himself, for example he absolutely hated nationalism and that's kind of a requirement, or there isn't any value in his works, I think there's actually a decent amount in there for any kind of attempt at self actualization and rejecting victim mentality, but he's definitely what you might call a proto-fascist thinker.

Keep in mind that there's more kinds of fascist than Nazis. There's even more kinds of Nazi than anti-semitic Nazis.