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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Your problem is essential “if things get better for other people that’ll be bad for me.”

Yes, that's correct and I'm hardly the only person without student loans it would be bad for. Why do only people with student loan debts deserve help? Why not give everyone a flat 50/100/whatever thousand dollars and let us do with it what we will. I could solve a lot of problems for myself if I had all the money I spent on college back.

The problem here isn’t student loan forgiveness; it’s the housing market being out of whack.

Yes, and I haven't heard anyone put forth any kind of solution for that.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that's correct and I'm hardly the only person without student loans it would be bad for.

That's... not how that works. When people (who aren't already filthy rich, anyway) get money, they spend it, strengthening the economy as a whole and benefiting everyone but the filthy rich. Your logic would apply equally well to wage increases or anything else that benefits people other than you, but in reality a rising tide lifts all boats. Also, rich pricks already have all the money in the world to buy up housing, so it's not like there's any shortage for demand for the stuff.

Why do only people with student loan debts deserve help?

The whole point of social welfare is to help people, but different people can get help in different ways. There's no reason for one policy to help everyone, for the same reason one doesn't expect food stamps to necessarily benefit prospective homeowners. Also student loans are exploitative and fucked up and shouldn't exist period.

Why not give everyone a flat 50/100/whatever thousand dollars and let us do with it what we will.

Because it'd break the government's budget and/or inflate everything to hell and back. If we assume it's realistic then sure, do that and also forgive student loans. If you want the government to help you, sure that's perfectly fine and frankly your right, but there's no reason for that to have anything to do with them helping other people too.

Yes, and I haven't heard anyone put forth any kind of solution for that.

You haven't seen corporate media or the corporate-captured political establishment put forth any kind of solution for that. There, off the top of my head. You'll likely see something similar in your own local progressive politics scene. There are plenty of policies both proposed and implemented that attempt to help prospective homeowners. Rather than push against student loan forgiveness (which wouldn't help anyway), you can push for affordable housing policies. In the end people eho want student loan forgiveness aren't your enemies; they're your allies against the ultra-rich. There's enough wealth in the world's wealthiest nation to pay for your home and their student loans, but it's being hoarded by rich pricks who want you both to suffer.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago

When people (who aren’t already filthy rich, anyway) get money, they spend it, strengthening the economy as a whole and benefiting everyone but the filthy rich.

No... when people spend it that money just goes right back to the top. None of it passes through our hands. I don't get paid more when the company I work for does better. Products don't get cheaper when costs go down. They continue to squeeze us for everything they can. So when only one group can afford these now increased prices everyone else gets fucked. Yeah, rich people are the problem but picking and choosing who gets handouts is not the solution.