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A place to discuss the ideas, developments, and technology that can and will shape the future of civilization.

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(1) Concepts are often better treated in isolation -- eg: "what if energy became near zero cost?"
(2) Consider the law of unintended consequences -- eg: "if this happens, then these other systems fail"
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(4) We are here to explore the parameter spaces of the future -- these includes political system changes that advances may trigger. Keep political discussions abstract and not about current affairs.
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What milestones will humanity likely skip before we reach AGI? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 3 days ago by Davy_Jones@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/futurism@lemmy.ca

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Which scientific, technological, or social achievements are we unlikely to ever complete before artificial general intelligence arrives?

Examples to seed the discussion: fully mapped human brain at synapse-level, reliable molecular nanofabrication, global economic equality, true interstellar travel, or a 100% cure for aging.

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There is no AGI.

[–] Davy_Jones@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is futurism community. Please read before posting.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

All I see is somehow realistic science fiction. AGI is still a bullshit goalpost ever moving. The new AGI according to the OpenAI retarded CEO is "chat bot that can buy groceries," is that what you were referring to?

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

I think your best bet is to ask the folks over at Numenta what they think it means. They're a lot more convincing than the chat bot bros.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

OH they changed it from when we make X billions of dollars we well have AGI

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

It doesn't seem to violate guidelines and was a view on the future. Imagine there was some hard reason AGI wasn't possible with silicon. I really can't think of a mechanism but that's still futurism even if it doesn't align with your view of it. It's basically Dune (sure it's fiction and the prequels kind of hinge on AI but the main novels don't and are considered scifi which seems like a reasonable yardstick).

That said, their follow up is pretty aggressive. I can see that killing community. So would their pessimism I guess but I kind of hope this channel isn't only for soft sci-fi discussions as if they're realistic.