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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/post/533816

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CNN asked Miller whether the Trump Administration will abide by a district judge’s order blocking the Guard’s deployment in Oregon. “Well, the Administration filed an appeal this morning with the Ninth Circuit,” Miller began. “I would note the Administration won an identical case in the Ninth Circuit just a few months ago with respect to the federalizing of the California National Guard.”

Then, Miller said: “Under Title 10 of the U.S. Code, the President has plenary authority, has—” before making an abrupt stop. Miller blinked several times, with anchor Boris Sanchez calling out his name, though he still did not respond.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenary_power

A plenary power or plenary authority is a complete and absolute power to take action on a particular issue, with no limitations.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 197 points 2 days ago (12 children)

The executive is a co-equal branch of government. We don't do kings here. We kill kings.

We also kill Nazis. Per long tradition. We don't debate them. We don't platform them. Nazis are guilt free kills. Don't even count as human.

[–] Ging@anarchist.nexus 171 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We have never killed kings here. We also stayed out of Nazi affairs for many years. The sentiment is nice, but more than misleading. You got weird history books anon

[–] DaMummy@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not only that, but we also support most dictatorships around the world, we fund genocide, overthrow democratically elected governments, and assassinate people like Lincoln, JFK, & MLK.

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh shoot you're right, I guess we should all relax and get back to work

[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

THAT'S the spirit!!

[–] Ging@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 days ago

I thought that's what I read, thanks for the reality check

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe he meant Martin Luther King?

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

He wasn't killed... barely.

[–] Ging@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 days ago

I thought these words exactly but felt they may be too harsh lol

[–] Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

But.. but.. ”zey vere just folloving orders”

Punch-a-nazi would be a great substitute for whack-a-mole BTW

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

Don't even count as human.

... People can be evil (and even deserve execution) without dehumanizing them. You know, the exact thing we hate them for doing?

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People calling you a nazi sympathizer don't know that most people who actively participated as members of the German nazi party were 'normal' people. They lived normal lives, followed the law, and existed in normal society. In reality, most people supporting our current nazi problems will need to be deprogrammed and forcibly pulled back into an accepting society. Its what happened in Germany, not many nazis were charged with crimes.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Similar shit happened in Indonesia after the genocide. People had to go back to being neighbours with somewhat typical people who were former state sanctioned serial killers and enablers. Germany tried to deprogram the youth in the '50s, but yeah. Didn’t stick, for various reasons. Harsh reality.

Still, no society has recovered from fascist or similar regimes without at least some targeted pruning of the tree of life. Putin SHOULD obsess about what happened to Gaddafi and the like. Society has to remember or, well, here we are again.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Are you agreeing with them? If not, It's really just the two weirdos ITT who cannot fathom the idea that bad people are still people.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah, Nazis are inhuman garbage

[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago

Nazis are human garbage.

As humans, they have human rights... But they also should be punished for their violations of human rights. The law, as it currently stands, is not fulfilling its purpose of punishing bad actions. Thus, it is up to us to punish them.

Punch a Nazi today!

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They love that you say this.

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[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We don't do kings here. We kill kings.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Literally never killed a king in their history. The closest they got was killing aboriginal chieftains. Muricans just got salty because the King of England refused to let them colonize the native tribes in the great lakes region (which the crown had declared a self-governing protectorate). Americans declared a revolution and cloaked it in jingoistic hoopla about liberty. They also tried (and failed) to enlist Quebec to join them.

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 days ago

Hey to be fair the US government has killed 1 king in their history, it was just MLK..

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Muricans just got salty because the King of England refused to let them colonize the native tribes in the great lakes region (which the crown had declared a self-governing protectorate).

Wait wait wait. The Brits were the good guys (in this one, very specific, instance)?

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Broken clock, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Proclamation_of_1763

[Historians] have argued that colonial resentment of the proclamation contributed to the growing divide between the colonies and the mother country. Some historians say that even though the boundary was pushed west in subsequent treaties, the British government refused to permit new colonial settlements for fear of instigating a war with Native Americans, which angered colonial land speculators.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Not the only time. Another example is the West Africa Squadron, where a small part of the British Navy tried to block all slave traffic coming out of West Africa.

The UK has done some insanely horrific things, but it does have some legitimate bright spots in there.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Love it. Sincerely I do.

American: kill kings!

European: amateurs.

Lol.

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 37 points 2 days ago

I know a lot of other social medias censor this idea, but throughout history, a lot of human rights only came about when people rose up to defend it.

[–] verdi@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's the story you've been told, it is in fact false. You save and help Nazis flee prosecution and the only kings you ever killed were the original inhabitants of America that you genocided in your manifest destiny.

No amount of chest thumping is going to erase the fact you're already living in the 4th reich and the best you can do about it is shoot some random blogger in the neck. And then you have the gall to ridicule the French...

edit: Like someone mentioned below, the only king you killed was MLK.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I know that Americans will push back eventually, and I'vegot faith but, but the rest of the world is watching and wondering why you haven't yet.

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago

We are pushing back, it's just the US is far more spread out then European countries and protests are purposely not being covered in mainstream media. Not to say we couldn't be better or doing more.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago

"our country is too big and no one is leading us"

That's it. That's the reason. According to Americans on Lemmy/PieFed/Mastodon/Reddit is the drive to DC is too long. Regardless of where you live. Live in New York? it's a long drive. California? it's a very long drive. Maryland? way too long. Also unlike other countries Americans need a schedule and a specific time and date to do it. Other countries will just hit the streets with no planning, no times or dates, they just know something bad is happening and will leave their homes and protest. Americans don't do that. they NEED someone else to organize for them to tell them something bad is happening and to let everyone know about it on this specific date,at this specific time and to please register online to confirm your attendance.

The actual answer? deep down, the vast majority of americans simply don't care.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Rest of the world: Why haven't you started the bloodiest civil war killing the most Americans of any conflict ever since the last one?

Americans:

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 2 days ago

Not enough people are starving

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

The US has put or helped keep more kings in power than they have taken out of power. Also, I would like to point out that King George III did not die in the American revolutionary war.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

The intolerance will be met with equal intolerance.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We kill kings.

Are you in France? The last king killed by his own subjects was French king King Louis XVI. After that it was probably Tsar Nicholas II of Russia if you count him as a king. America sought independence from monarchy and never took the war to Britain.

I get what you're saying, but I think the whole "mindless, indiscriminate killing of people against us" narrative fits far better with people who fasten political flags to the beds of their pickup trucks and collect guns so they can shoot democrats alongside Jesus come Armageddon day.

It's not that I think there shouldn't be capital punishment for heinous actions, but with both political sides calling each other "nazis" and the right saying the left is violent while ramping up violence, we have to be better about rhetoric and the chance for ambiguity. Lets get better.

The French killed kings and nazis. The British killed kings and nazis. The Polish killed kings and nazis. The Russian killed kings and nazis. And replaced their king with fucking Stalin. The Canadians rebelled and won against a king(winning the right to create their own government) and killed nazis. (You get the idea)

The US was tricked by their upper class into rebelling, and then replaced the king with a pseudo-king. The US started WW2 helping the Nazis

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nazis are certainly human. Not disagreing with the rest of your statements but denying reality doesn't help anything.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People who refuse to relinquish Nazism need to be publicly hanged. Nazism is intentionally harmful.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Did you even read that?