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Looks more like what they dislike is the concept of a singular individual with more accrued wealth than they could ever feasibly spend.
Yeah, and that part is fine. More what I was talking about was insisting that she's secretly a real estate magnate and music is just her side hustle. A more textbook example of "every bad thing is true of people I don't like" would be hard to arrive at.
Well, I mean... A quick search seems to indicate that she does indeed have a pretty extensive property portfolio to the tune of 150 million USD. Now, I don't have a principal problem with the concept of landlords, but it's not entirely unreasonable to criticize people using the housing market as a speculative investment vehicle to the collective detriment of people who, you know, need to be able to afford to live somewhere.
I sincerely doubt she's somehow actually concurrently living in all those properties, so that's probably not why she bought them.
"She didn’t get there through album sales, she got there through hoarding real estate and becoming a landlord, and investing heavily in the corporations that have ruined our lives." was specifically what the lemmy.ml people said that I disagreed with.
The actual reality is that she made a little over 2 billion dollars in her career, almost all of it on selling tickets to live shows, and then... (lost half a billion? taxes? unclear) and now her net worth is $1.6 billion of which 10% ($150 million) is real estate. That makes sense to me. If you want to say our whole system where someone can spend $150 million on real estate is fucked (and it sounds like you do), I will completely agree with you. If you want to pretend she's at heart a parasite and bad person because she directly physically traveled around and performed shows in front of enough people that they each bought their individual ticket and she got a cut and it all added up to billions of dollars, I will disagree.
I feel like it's also an example of the kind of "I like to attack people as a way of indicating my displeasure with the wider system, because it's easy and emotionally satisfying, and all issues are black and white now" Lemmy brain thinking.
Yeah, that's fair. Claiming she made none of her money off her music is certainly nonsensical.
Yeah. Issues of wealth inequality in the US aside, I think it is indicative of how well the lemmy.ml hivemind grapples with factual reality (which is, it doesn't).
There's definitely a number of reasons why it's the only instance I've got blocked. It's just not worth it.
Doubtful, given that they simp for billionaires like Putin or other wealthy dictators in the Middle East.
Maybe so, but I can only comment on what I see here. I don't know these people.
Just scroll through the posts in this community and you will.