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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 121 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Idk why this is treated as though its so inconceivable. Greta is hated by conservatives around the world. Most countries have already condemned Israel. They only care what Trump's regime thinks. Their prisons are notorious centers of physical emotional and sexual torture. This is relatively mild treatment in comparison to many of the accounts I've read. It's still awful, but if they were going to invent a story about how vile the Israeli prison guards were, this wouldnt be noteworthy in any way. Barely even scratches the surface of the things that happen in those prisons.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

English really needs to stop calling the right wing "conservatives". We don't call them that in other languages, and they literally don't try to conserve things, but instead always seek to destroy.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

I prefer "reactionary," because it accurately describes their political philosophy and tactics.

Also, it really pisses them off.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Presumably because anyone with half a brain would realize that she should have gotten a far more diplomatic treatment regardless of how much of a genocidal asshole they were. The fact that she is getting treated this way shows how far Israel has devolved to and how much more people people should be protesting any interaction with the country.

Unfortunately, it isn't the only Middle East country who behaves like shit, whom people in other countries have protested, and whom their governments don't care. But at least the fiction of what Israel was trying to project itself as has toppled considerably.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Of course she deserved better treatment. So did Sophie Scholl. It's just very odd to act like this is not a believable thing that Israel, famed mass murderers of children, would do.

Israel hasn't devolved, the state was founded on acts of colonialist genocide. This is what the state of Israel has always been.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

At the same time, she is also a public figure. If they had treated her well, they would have less of a leg to stand on. Whereas mistreating her just raises the question that if they are treating a relatively known public figure in that way, what happens to the less-known people, who don't have as much of a platform to speak out on.

[–] hcf@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

And Greta isn't the only person claiming that they did awful, abusive, hateful things. Chris Smalls got it, too.

Chris Smalls gave a chilling interview with Amy Goodman where he basically said that the Israelis treated him worse than he's been treated in his entire life as a black man in America. That's saying a lot.

The full interview.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They abused her less than some other people so it is ok. What kind of dumb logic is that?

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago

Where did i say it was okay? It is abhorrent. I said that if they were going to invent a story about her graphic torture, this abuse is comparatively minor compared with other accounts from Israeli prisons.