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The better headline is that only 30 percent blame Dems. That tells me that while many in MAGA won't admit to anyone that Reps did it, they aren't fooled into believing Dems did it.
An additional interesting poll would be how many Americans support the shut-down.
It’s probably tricky to question that. Nobody wants the government shut down. But we’re here cause somebody isn’t doing the right thing. So far the majority is blaming Trump, which gives Dems more leverage.
I mean, I personally am in favor of keeping the government shutdown until every ICE agent who's missing paychecks because of it has to quit and finds a different job, but admittedly opinion polls say that's probably still an outlier opinion at this point
Yeah, but that’s different than saying you want the government shut down as a blanket statement. You want the government open so long as it’s not enabling an authoritarian regime. But so long is that’s not possible, shut it down.
It’s probably easier to ask “who do you blame for the shutdown” and assume it’s the same people.
I thought I read that ICE has an exception to operate and be paid.
Nope, "ICE agents also go without pay." (arc). The exception ICE gets is that they have to keep working while they're not being paid.
Okay, thanks. So officially no pay. That's good. Though my tinfoil hat is telling me billionaire funds might float their way to keep the onslaught uninterrupted.
The people that cut those checks get furloughed as well.
However, this admin doesn't give a shit about legality & ICE quite obviously doesn't either so they will likely be paying them under the table.
Yes, my thoughts as well.
Along with all the other affected employees....
Plenty of Americans have been asked to sacrifice more for less worthy causes over the years
They got $50k sign on. They started with a years earnings. Wonder if the motivation for that is a situation exactly like this?
I don't think this administration plans stuff out that much, I think they did that just to burn up as much of the taxpayer money they got given in Trump's budget bill as quickly as possible.
Also, I just did some quick searching on that and it seems like they only started saying they'd do that sign on bonus at the very end of July, so a) not confirmed anyone's actually gotten it yet, b) what about all the ICE agents who started before this bonus?
You're right. I'm giving the clowns too much credit.
Tons of MAGA simps and the Trump administration want the government shut down. It gives them another cover story for further firing of federal employees and withholding payments to programs they don't like since their initial wave is getting slowed down by the courts.
Yes, Taco explicitly said he wants to do irreversible damage to this country under cover of a shutdown and then of course, blame the Democrats.
Given Murc's Law, I'm sure the tankies, the centrists, plenty of Democrats, and of course the goddamned "liberal media" will give a great big assist to that blaming. That's in addition to, of course, the Republican Noise Machine...
Give it a few days and Fox will reprogram them to shift the blame. It’s a tale repeated ad infinitum.
It doesn’t take much.