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WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) — On a visit to New Zealand, FBI Director Kash Patel gave the country’s police and spy bosses gifts of inoperable pistols that were illegal to possess under local gun laws and had to be destroyed, New Zealand law enforcement agencies told The Associated Press.

The plastic 3D-printed replica pistols formed part of display stands Patel presented to at least four senior New Zealand security officials in July. Patel, the most senior Trump administration official to visit the country so far, was in Wellington to open the FBI’s first standalone office in New Zealand.

Pistols are tightly restricted weapons under New Zealand law and possessing one requires an additional permit beyond a regular gun license. Law enforcement agencies didn’t specify whether the officials who met with Patel held such permits, but they couldn’t have legally kept the gifts if they didn’t.

It wasn’t clear what permissions Patel had sought to bring the weapons into the country. A spokesperson for Patel told the AP Tuesday that the FBI would not comment.

US FBI Director Kash Patel visits New Zealand, immediately provides local officials with 3d printed, potentially operable firearms...

... which is a crime, that could carry up to a 3 year prison/jail sentence in NZ...

... and would also potentially be somewhere between a misdemeanor and a felony depending on where you are in the US, as 3d printed firearms are generally without serial numbers and are thus 'ghost guns', which are often illegal if unregistered, if not outright banned, though this differs from state to state and city to city.

(Oh also, I guess he is so concerned about properly investigating the death of Charlie Kirk that he is uh, personally looking for leads in New Zealand, or something.)

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[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

However, selling them without a serial number is illegal.

That's not correct either . Federally it is legal to sell a self built firearm with no serial number as long as you did not originally build it with the intention of selling.

[–] chiocciola@lemmy.cafe 23 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Intention

So if I make 100 of them and then lick each one of them, and then decide they don’t taste good… Selling them is OK right?

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 8 hours ago

They're gonna pull our licker license

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

As stupid as that sounds, something a little less stupid may, may hold up as a defense in court, depending on where you are, and if you have a couple million dollars to blow on legal fees and/or can get some kind of gun rights advocacy oriented legal firm type thing to work for you.

[–] chiocciola@lemmy.cafe 4 points 6 hours ago

So, giving them away is cool then right?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I have to say it though; there are many easier ways of making money.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, just 3d print ATM skimmers!

for legal reasons this a joke

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I’m in the clear because at no point in time did I intend to illegally make money with whatever it is you’re talking about

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I would ask your lawyer before investing in the infrastructure.

Many of the US' gun laws come down to "intent". Almost like they were written from the start to be selectively enforced.