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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

I'm curious why the GOP seems to be actively pursuing a shutdown right now, that they have full trilateral control over the Federal Government. Trump already isn't bothering to staff or govern the administrations they don't like, it seems like this would only hamper their goals with ICE & DHS, right?

Is there even an actual goal here? Or are they betting on Schumer et al caving at the last possible nanosecond?

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 1 points 55 minutes ago

Along with what others have said, a user in another thread pointed out that with a new financial year, they can repeat their performance with their July bill, basically doing whatever they want, so they probably consider it a win all around.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

They're betting on Democrats getting the blame. They might be right, though I hope not.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago

This still serves their larger goal of portraying government (supposedly representing the will of the people) as a whole as inefficient and unreliable. This furthers simplistic "strongman" attitudes as well as a continued push towards privatisation.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Grover Norquist, who founded Americans for Tax Reform in 1985 at the urging of President Reagan, declared in 2001: “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”

https://theconversation.com/the-shutdown-drowning-government-in-the-bathtub-111333

They are ideologically opposed to the government doing basically anything other than police and military duties, and having the bare minimum legal system required to facilitate criminal convictions for the poor, and the contract emforcement of private business.

Basically, they want the level of government that exists in Night City from Cyberpunk 2077, but probably without mass transit or even public roads.

This is what Rush Limbaugh's ditto hesds have been told they want for about 40 years, and now they are just doing it.

You can prosecute people for thought crimes snd not being the right sexuality or religion or skin color with this, so, that's all good with them.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago

It's a reasonable question. I don't know how many ICE agents are ok without getting the paycheck.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Should they bet on consequences?