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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I take the other members of the team into consideration. It does make sense since I work with them fives days a week, don't want to make shit harder for them, within reason.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 5 points 13 hours ago

During a previous assignment, I was told that during the summer period I was going to be swamped with work, and I was asked, because I don't have kids, not to take a vacation in that period.
So I didn't and told them that I would take my vacation after the summer holiday period, in October. I told them this in May.

The summer period comes around, and it was the slowest period I had ever encountered. There was literally nothing for me to do. Meanwhile the project manager and a number of other people in my team, who had small kids, did take time off in the summer period. By the time it was October, the work had picked up again, and they complained that I was going to be on vacation in that period. The manager called me not a team player. I just told them that I held the fort when they told me to, and that I had communicated this vacation well ahead of time. They had had their relax time, now it was time for me.

I agree, I don't want to make things harder for my team members, but within reason. And what they asked of me wasn't reasonable.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly! Not taking your PTO will create pressure for your coworkers to also pass over their PTO or work longer hours.

Don't set a bad precedent.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

I think what the guy above you meant is that he'd take PTO but try to make sure it's not 1) At the same time as everyone else, or 2) at an anticipated super busy period.

Where I come from, legally, we have to plan our PTO out for the year in Jan/Feb. Good managers will make exceptions and let you take spontaneous PTO with two weeks notice usually.

This means that if you have a team of 8 and each wants to take 2 weeks in the summer, usually max 2-3 people would have overlapping PTO. Everyone gets PTO in the summer, but you don't leave a single guy doing all the work. Usually anyone who has pre-existing plans would have higher priority over specific dates than anyone else.

The system works most of the time. You're happy because nobody is going to guilt you about taking PTO, your coworkers are happy because nobody is left alone to deal with the entire team's workload, and the bosses are happy because work continues at like 70% and if there's an emergency, there's someone to handle it.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Not taking it? I'm talking about picking when to use it, not if you are going to use it lol ofc you use the time off

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, no. At my last job every project was constantly late because they kept over promising and clearly didn’t have enough people for what they committed to. I couldn’t even get a department meeting once a month for an hour because everyone was always “too busy”.

These projects always need everyone to commit to it like it’s a personal passion project because their goals are unreasonable. If they can’t handle someone being away for a day then the manager clearly cannot plan and/or the enployees need better training(in my case half of them were simply stubborn and ineffective on top of the questionable management). Sure, don’t take a week off right before a reasonably set deadline if the work’s not done but otherwise do whatever.

I had someone call me yelling because I was going to finish the job in exactly the amount of time I said it would take me, but I started a day late due to technical errors which made another project go over by a day(and that day I still stayed late to make sure things were done!). If you can’t take a day off then you also can’t be sick, and if managers don’t account for THAT obvious possibility then they are fucking stupid and awful managers, zero exceptions.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I mean the "sure don't take time off just before a deadline finishes" stuff is the sort of thing I was talking about.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

That’s a given for basic respect. If someone has to be told that they’ve got a different problem entirely. At that point we’re talking about the right to your PTO anymore.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes but a good manager will arrange a replacement for you after you inform them that you're putting in the PTO. It shouldn't fall on your shoulders.

If they can't find a replacement then they should hire more people and try to overstaff every single day so that there's always someone to cover. That's what my workplace does, and because of that there has never been an issue with me taking PTO whenever the hell I feel like it.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago

I don't think that works with us for smaller, few days off leave since you need to move around heavy equipment. Or if you've been the one in charge of stuff.

I mean they cold move around heavy equipment and get people to rope someone in on what you were in charge of, it just gets too complicated. So that's why time off is usually figured out by people.