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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Why are you so eager to give up?

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 5 hours ago

I am medical. If people start shooting each other (more than they are already) I know my role already.

In terms of everything currently happening, every time someone says “vote” that feels like giving up in the right now while no election is happening. “Vote” says: just wait. Go sit down and wait. Take a nap, even, just wait. None of this matters, we’ll just “vote” later. There’s no action to be had, go read a book or something.

I’m not the one professing a “give up” strategy here.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

We knew all of this in 2024, and people couldn’t be bothered to stop it. Now they have full control, and certainly enough to either stop elections from happening or to rig it.

If you think full-blown fascists will allow a democratic process to take their power when they’ve already seized all the levers of government and can stop us, you’re mistaken. That’s why it was so important to prevent it when we had the chance.

It’s too late. The only way to stop it now will be to take it from them by force. Literally all of history shows that.

Unfortunately, the will to do that won’t exist until they’ve already committed the atrocities they’ve been planning.

e: he got away with an attempted insurrection the last time he lost. No way he won’t dial that up to 11 next time. Why wouldn’t he, and preemptively? And why won’t he get away with far worse?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well you don't gotta make it easy for him. Imagine if people went "well. I guess he gets to stay in office" after that event.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Making it easy for him is thinking voting has a chance of fixing this now.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So you're going to tell people to not vote??

You do realize how that makes things worse, right?

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No, obviously.

I’m going to tell people to do more than just vote, and to not think voting alone is adequate.

It’s not a hard concept. We are fighting honest to goodness, full-blown fascism now. No joke, no hyperbole. Of course you should still vote, but you also need to know that voting is no longer enough. It was always the bare minimum, and now we need to do more than that, because they will not give up power to the vote.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Because I didn't like the lifestyle of arrogance and privilege here before trump either. Its always been heartless and soulless for anyone that doesn't get lost in the escapism in the bullshit they peddle to naive people in exchange for easier control.

Most Americans don't even want to admit how much blood is on their hands by simply living a "regular life" under this nation. That's not a culture to be trusted as authentic genuine human beings.