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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Please do.

Be sure to also put how much time people can realistically expect to spend on each step (including offsite backup and recovery).

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if it’s more than 10min I’ll just continue to pay tuta mail

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Narrator: It is.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Been running my own server for 15 years. I need to put about 20 hours maintenance a year in for updates. I have the whole thing automated as a helm chart using PVCs with cert-manager for auto-renewal and the node just runs k3s as a single node.

That's a lot of extra layers, but the layer of seperation between the host and the services makes it very easy to automate all the pain away.

[–] liara@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

20 hours per year is far too many hours of my time, and you're past the point of having to spend the time architecting it. You also have the operational costs of whatever you decide to host on, along with your backups.

Imo, paying $100 or even $200 a year is a steal in comparison

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I pay $300 for 3 years with SSD nodes.

I never have to worry about the company hosting my mail going corrupt, being sold, or being coerced into giving access to my data without just cause.

You undervalue the cost of maintaining the trust with a provider

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No, now you have to worry about your data being seized at the data center level.

And, because it’s in a data center, it can be seized/copied without you even knowing about it!

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

Its encrypted at rest, so good luck, but you still have to worry about this from your provider. You have to also worry about if they would even tell you if they knew that was happening, and you have to worry about what they are doing on top of that.

I have a single layer to worry about, and likely going to solve that with moving the mail storage to a home server and only having the postfix mail-exchanger in the cloud.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Agreed.

Too many people undervalue their time.