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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I will literally go without a smartphone if Google does this, this is insane I would have bought an iphone if I wanted a junk device I don't actually own.

[–] Jinni@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this effects de-googled android, I will probably start investing in Linux phones.

I would rather have a limited phone than has full freedom than one that makes everyone go through Google.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It won't. This is for 99% of users with their Google enabled devices. It's still shit and it will effect the 1% indirectly by the reduction of available software outside the play store.

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The crazy part is this may make iOS the better alternative when considering the emergence of third-party app stores and Apple's loosening grip on their ecosystem.

LineageOS is still a good option too, for anyone who would prefer to keep the phone they have

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

Where are the third party app stores on iOS. Apple is delaying and fighting every inch in the EU.

Not really. They are converging onto the exact same thing. 3rd party stores are allowed, but needs [Google/Apple]'s approval.

If you are big and have teeth (like Epic Games), you will (probably) be allowed, if you are small like a single open source developer, the can shut you down city dubious "security"/"ToS" issue, and you probably don't have the money to sue.

[–] PinkiePieYay2707@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago

LineageOS is not really an alternative though, as it will still be hit by this. Please see the comment here: https://lemmy.world/post/36621884/19652276

[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

iOS would be the better alternative, if it wasn't for the hardware they run on. After all, Apple is infamous for their blatant planned obsolescence on their iPhones since the iPhone 6. Unfortunately, Google seems to be following Apple in this way as well since they launched an update that made the Pixel 6a's battery so much worse than before. Therefore, we must all have a dumb phone + Linux phone set up...or something

[–] enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can agree on Apple not really having a properly supported hardware repair ecosystem, and actively working against third party repair.

But the software? When Samsung and friends had 2-4 years of security updates, Apple had almost twice that. The iPhone XS still has support, 6 years after end-of-sale, 7 years from release. Normal people can’t be expected to flash their phones with LineageOS. The situation is slightly better nowadays, but Samsung still seems to be depreciating 3 year old devices: https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

To add, Apple has actually been making amends regarding repairability. It's small steps, but leagues ahead of what's offered for popular android manufacturers, while still maintaining their IP68 ratings on most devices.

I can't speak to how they make their parts available to third parties (seems to be a grey area), but there has been a reasonable focus with the last couple generations of iPhones that ensures the device can be repaired from either side.

Overall, the tide seems to have shifted. If you're going to be at the mercy of a corporate giant in order to keep up with modernity, then Apple is currently holding the dimly lit torch of consumer rights.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Apple is infamous for their blatant planned obsolescence on their iPhones since the iPhone 6

They learned from it. The phone toggles itself when the battery health is at 80% max capacity, but this is toggleable. Also, the iPhone 11 still runs smooth.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

iOS would be the better alternative

  • Already can't "sideload". iOS will be just as restrictive as Android in 2026-2027.
  • Apps immediately gets killed in the background. Can't even transfer data to a USB Drive without needing to downloading a separate app, and need the app in the foreground.
  • iPhones cannot multitask
  • Developer account costs $99 **per year. On Google its only a $25 one time fee (for the near future, at least, I can't predict what they will do in like 2035)
[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, if Android effectively kills fdroid, then it essentially becomes like iOS. Whilst you can technically still sideload, apps must get certified by Google themselves and there's no way they'll allow 90% of fdroid unless its their Google Play versions.Tbf though, I didn't know the background thing, which just goes to show that neither of them are ideal. Especially since Apple locks down their devices really hard which turns things like transferring files without a cloud service into a challenge. Therefore, in the future, I might just use a dumb phone for basic phone calls and text messages (meanly just for things like job applications or services like pharmacies) and a Linux phone for everything else. That's assuming Linux phones have evolved just enough to be usable alongside a dumb phone for what it can't do, which is SMS.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They both go for the least open option. If asking for all devs registration and validation from google is viable and legally sound, apple will do the same if that's not already in the pipe.

Both "stores" are targeted for the same issues.