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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 77 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck google. They don’t even index shit anymore. They index nothing. It’s not a search engine, it’s an ad engine. Everyone is stuck with Gmail now.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone who hosts a lot of things: Fuck email hosting. Just get your own domain for a few bucks a year, and use an established provider to host it.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly - it's not impossible. Not as simple as spinning up a webserver, but definitely doable. I should probably write something up at some point.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I can help.

—- START —-

Hello! Are you thinking about hosting your own email? Do you enjoy having a life? Do you want to deal with spf and dkim records? Having to add more storage space? Backing up said emails following the 3-2-1 guide? Finding out your residential ISP blocks port 25?

I didn’t think so, and neither do I. Go pay to have someone else host your email.

—- END —-

Edit:

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yea, I should definitely write something up so bollocks like this does not proliferate.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Please do.

Be sure to also put how much time people can realistically expect to spend on each step (including offsite backup and recovery).

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if it’s more than 10min I’ll just continue to pay tuta mail

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Narrator: It is.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Been running my own server for 15 years. I need to put about 20 hours maintenance a year in for updates. I have the whole thing automated as a helm chart using PVCs with cert-manager for auto-renewal and the node just runs k3s as a single node.

That's a lot of extra layers, but the layer of seperation between the host and the services makes it very easy to automate all the pain away.

[–] liara@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

20 hours per year is far too many hours of my time, and you're past the point of having to spend the time architecting it. You also have the operational costs of whatever you decide to host on, along with your backups.

Imo, paying $100 or even $200 a year is a steal in comparison

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I pay $300 for 3 years with SSD nodes.

I never have to worry about the company hosting my mail going corrupt, being sold, or being coerced into giving access to my data without just cause.

You undervalue the cost of maintaining the trust with a provider

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, now you have to worry about your data being seized at the data center level.

And, because it’s in a data center, it can be seized/copied without you even knowing about it!

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 1 points 16 minutes ago

Its encrypted at rest, so good luck, but you still have to worry about this from your provider. You have to also worry about if they would even tell you if they knew that was happening, and you have to worry about what they are doing on top of that.

I have a single layer to worry about, and likely going to solve that with moving the mail storage to a home server and only having the postfix mail-exchanger in the cloud.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Agreed.

Too many people undervalue their time.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

My main issue was getting mailgun to work (it didn't) and the imap server kept breaking

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Been there... Done that.... mailbox.org'ed it...

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 4 points 2 days ago

Or at least get your own domain and use it with a different provider.

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I keep my Gmail for spam