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[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Even if there was passenger train service on the existing lines here, a lot of people would need a vehicle to get to the station

BIKE. BIKE TO THE TRAIN STATION

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It also solves the problem at the other end where I'm 4 miles from my office.

Trains don't make it easy to get bikes on but that's easily resolved also

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yup. Here in Chicago we now have bike racks inside the trains so you can bring your bike into the city on the metra, as well as allowed in all trains including the colored lines outside of peak hours

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can not bike the roads where I live. Also, there is no bus station or train station to bike to.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sounds like a problem that needs solving.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

While a lot of people can, some live far away, or have small kids, or the weather doesn't allow it, or...

There is no one single solution, every bit helps, and often they help each other.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Small kids doesn't stop you from biking lmfao. It just changes what setup of bike you need to have.

the weather doesn't allow it, or...

The only weather that would prevent it is a hurricane and you shouldn't be driving in one of those either.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Spoken like someone who hasn't had to deal with kids. Or worked a job with a dress code.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it's spoken like someone who's been to the numerous countries where they bike with their kids just fine.

worked a job with a dress code

A 5-7 mile commute is doable without being sweaty with the right bike.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, because rain and snow don't exist.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Raincoats exist man. Rain bubbles exist. It's a solved problem. Snow just isn't that hard

[–] bss03 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's weather I would prefer a house over a tent. Similarly there's weather I would drive in that I wouldn't bike in (even with a raincoat).

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you can't stand the slightest inconvenience to yourself for a better world, the world will never improve.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think distance is a pretty good reason not to. Just not wanting to is a fair excuse too, honestly. A car is convenient.

That said, at the point where the weather prohibits going by bicycle, in my experience at least, you generally just don't go anywhere because it'd be perilous in a car as well. I recall when I visited Kiruna some years ago, other than the cars, most people I saw were getting around on kicksleds and bicycles. Even saw a couple of dog sleds.

As for kids, what I've generally seen here are three options; chariots (can usually hold up to two kids), parcel shelf seats (one child), or the kid bikes themselves. I was taught to ride a bicycle at three, and at seven I biked to and from school on my own.

Granted, in the U.S. I can see this not happening on account of everything being so bloody spread out that you need a car, and even if you did put up with the distance, the infrastructure isn't there; you can't go on the motorway with a bicycle. Urban planning over in the states is abysmal.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Overall agree. The weather I had in mind was mainly rain, super hard to avoid when biking, a non issue in a car. Wind can be unpleasant as well.

Also, local bus that runs on the train timetable. Brings people to and from the train as well as the shops. Ideal.

[–] bss03 -1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I prefer to arrive at work/school/shops not sopping wet, and it sometimes rains.

I, personally, could bike or walk because the station would be particularly close to my residence. But, there are others in the county where to get to the closest station they'd be biking much further than they are currently healthy enough to accomplish.

Bikes are not a good option at this density either.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I prefer to arrive at work/school/shops not sopping wet, and it sometimes rains.

Raincoats! I have a nice yellow raincoat that folds up and inverts into its own pocket, turning into a little square you can tuck away in a bag or something. It's super convenient.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Okay but what if I’m sopping wet with sweat from the heat and I also smell bad now.

Unless the general stink of the any large concentration of humans will overpower it.

[–] sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I prefer to arrive at work/school/shops not sopping wet, and it sometimes rains

If only science could devise some sort of way to keep you dry in the rain. One day, perhaps

[–] bss03 1 points 2 days ago

A car does it pretty well!

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Caring about convenience over the environment and health is exactly the problem. They'll get healthy enough.

[–] bss03 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ablest is when pro environment . Yeah no. It's easy to create exceptions for the small portion of the population who is fully incapable of biking. Less car dependency will allow those who can't drive to get around far more safely, actually leading to more mobility for people with issues like legal blindness that prevent them from driving but not prevent them from other multimodal forms of transit

[–] bss03 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"They'll get healthy enough" is an albist view, no matter what else you might believe in.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

It's strictly true. It's not ablest. The overwhelming majority of those who cannot have no serious underlying reason as to why not