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Honest question, is part of your motivation for upholding 2A rights the ability to overthrow the government? Because I find that one hard to fathom; could the US Gov really be overthrown? Is it based on the premise that lots of people in the military / drone operators would be part of the militia?
Not the user you replied to, but I'm pro 2A because I don't trust cops. I rather have my neighbors form a militia to protect ourselves. I don't exactly know my neighbors very well, but it'd be more preferrable than the cops.
A citizen's militia should just fill the role of law enforcement really.
Its not really just about fascism, I don't trust cops even if trump wasn't elected.
I had a terrible experience with cops and I do not want that to happen again, ever. No one should have to experience what I had endured.
ACAB.
"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" -Karl Marx
In our case does it need to be overthrowing or making the price of Fucking Around too high? The police in the US are alot more respectful to large groups of armed people gathering than they are to people they feel they can night-stick without consequences. Trump & Co wants martial law so bad he can taste it but if he doesn't do it according to the sensitives of his heavily-armed base, things will turn into a shitshow. Plus, It's a universal principle to me and there are many peoples & governments that aren't the US. Would universal gun ownership have changed things for the Uyghurs, for the massacred in Myanmar, or Sudan, for the residents of Bucha, Ukraine? I think it would. Which leads to another point often lost in the argument: the main purpose of the US 2nd Amendment is for defense against foreign dangers. To allow a large force of irregulars to exist that could slow down an attack until the state or national governments could respond.