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Death penalty for a murder of a single persons seems harsh. I’m anti death penalty 100% of the time, though.
ah I see you're still using "person" as a measurement unit instead of the more modern "net worth"
Am I the only one to find the phrase "net worth" disgusting? It should be "net wealth" or something.
No, there are at least 2 of us. Even the concept that it's somehow a useful measure to anyone else than your local tax authorities (except maybe for people running for public office) sounds a bit iffy to me.
So you are right that giving it a name that ties it to your "worth" as a person is terrible.
Is it net worth, or how much money this guy gave Trump behind the scenes?
They want the death penalty in case other Americans get ideas. They want to make an example out of him.
It's a thin line between making an example or making a martyr of him, so the case will likely perpetually linger in limbo.
Even people who are okay with the death penalty in a moral sense should be against it for logical reasons. Once you factor in the cost of the appeals system, the cost of the drugs themselves, the cost of paying out people or families when the drugs dont work as theyre supposed to, and the cost of keeping people in prison on death row, it is infinitely more expensive than just putting someone in prison for life.
As a society, not to mention as taxpayers, we pay a huge premium to let the state exact barbaric revenge on people
I oppose the death penalty. No one has the right to take a single life, let alone the 40,000 people that Brian Robert Thompson murdered in cold blood.
I can support the idea of a death penalty when someone kills multiple people and there's good evidence.
However I can never support the implementation of the death penalty as I believe the state should never have the right tl execute its own citizens. And I believe it cannot be trusted with that authority
I used to be ok with it in certain circumstances, until I found out how many innocent people get convicted and how many people put to death were exonerated later. I'm against the entire prison system now though. It's modern slavery and the state shouldn't be trusted with that kind of power.
I'm okay with the death penalty in cases like treason or insurrection.
When it's clear that they committed the crimes.
In broad daylight.
For everyone to see.
On live television.
With absolutely no doubt that they are guilty.
You want this administration being the arbiter of what is treason?
Some governments deserve to be treasoned or insurrected.
Almost all
good news, donald trump just banned anti fascism. one step closer to your glorious dream.
i want to say i'm a civilized, evolved person. then some people i wish would get the ol' Robert-François Damiens. people have inconsistencies, like good corn muffin batter. fuck i should bake some muffins.
This particular murder is a challenge to the rule of law as a basic principle in a way that, for example, multiple murders by a serial killer are not. The serial killer does more direct harm, but IMO this murder requires more forceful repudiation by society.
The tag I gave you months ago checks out.
Nice, now I kind of wish you could see what other people have tagged users as. Except for the rampant abuse that would proliferate from that capability.
Haha, yeah I know what you mean.
...huh. I read that as giving the viewpoint of this administration, not as presenting a more fundamental (to them) truth.
I suspect you've got the more accurate read; thanks for posting this!
That’s awesome how do I do this. I keep seeing these enablers or bots with increasing frequency
Do you use web or a mobile app? Voyager, thunder, and boost have this as a feature, and apparently there's a Firefox extension that can do it also
LOL I am on web and after reading the above comment I thought "I wish was using Voyager so I could tag that user"
TIL you can tag users in Voyager. I've been using it since I moved to Lemmy and never knew.
You can tag users in Thunder too
It's a handy feature. Boost has it too!
There's an extension for Firefox that I use
The desire to engage in meaningful discussions that would never go anywhere wasting my time have been avoided. Thank you.
What do we do about the murder of thousands by using AI to refuse medical care, and instead funnel the profits to shareholder portfolios?
And what exactly makes this one worse than others?
The victim being rich and powerful, unlike most murder victims?
The victim belonging to a group of people very lucrative to the powers that be?
The fact that your favorite authoritarian politicians and talking heads said so on tv?
The aggravating factor is not the identity of the victim but rather the intent of the murderer. There have already been two more murders inspired at least partially by the murder of Brian Thompson (at least to the extent that the killers also wrote messages on the shell casings). If the rule of law is to be preserved, then it must be made clear that those who try to use violence as a tool for extralegal social change will not succeed, and that they will be punished severely.
The problem with this line of thinking is that people like Brian Thompson are excused entirely. How much pain, suffering, and unnecessary death did Brian Thompson enable with his policies? And what recourse did his victims have?
Fix that problem, and attacks like this don't happen in the first place.
Bro, we have a 2 tier justice system. This just makes it a little more just.
No significant social change has been acquired without violence, like it or not.
I'd personally argue that the motive is a huge mitigating factor in this case. Especially when you consider the hell that the insurance industry leeches put him and his family through.
IF it's even him, that is.
I'm of the opinion that law doesn't automatically equal justice and that justice is MUCH more important than law.
Which is why I consider illegal but justifiable actions against legally entrenched injustice much less egregious than that which is unjust but perfectly legal.
This particular murder is a challenge more to the system of control than to the rule of law. It's not society but the oligarchy who believe it requires a more forceful repudiation. Otherwise power might start to shift out of their hands and back to the people.
Maybe if the rule of law was doing it's fucking job and punishing these insurance bastards like they deserve randos wouldn't have to gun them down in the street. Society should be grateful SOMEONE did something about it.
From what I've been hearing, society IS grateful.
Just not the billionaires, and the media they control is how they voice it.
Username checks out.
Arbitrary benchmarks.
Why I think we should give this man a trophy and a lifetime supply of chocolate. Anybody that kills the Nazi should be given the same treatment that our world war II soldiers were given. Fucking ticker tape parade for this motherfucker.
This feels like something you'd enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyR8XgrwE4w
I guess it makes sense. A principled murder needs harsher punishment than even a serial killer… That’s the theory anyway.