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This is an oversimplification.
While I acknowledge the overall thrust of your arguments, you're allowed to stay in the country for 30 days after ending employment with your H1b sponsor and seek new employment during that time.
You can blame H1b workers for lower local wages but the reality is we are part of global market. Nations cannot silo themselves to artificially boost wages for their citizens sustainably. One has to be able to compete globally, or that employer will simply outsource, and that job opportunity one feels entitled to will simply become unavailable rather than go to an H1b worker. At least the H1b worker contributes to the local economy.
The H1b program is absolutely exploitative and the primary victims of that exploitation are H1b workers. American corporations should extol American values and pay a fair market wage for labor independent of a workers visa status.
Finally I feel your critique is directed at the tech industry in particular. One in five family doctors in the US are on a H1b visa. A large number of these doctors work in rural practice settings. Ending the H1b program would decimate rural healthcare and there is no short term solution to that.
30 days is way not enough to find a new job AS AN IMMIGRANT. If not flat out imposible. That is a disingenuous argument.
A citizen with would luck would find 30 days to find a new job, incredibly short.
Agreed. On an H-1B, you’re locked into the handful of companies willing to sponsor, and switching jobs is near impossible. Seriously who gets hired in 30 days? Even 60 days is crazy short.
I'm not suggesting it's beneficial to remove these people.
I'm suggesting that they be paid the market value for thier talents and that their presence benefit that nation, not a specific company.
H1B should be replaced by visas with no ties to a company. That's it.
When you argue about global markets, i see that as completely unrelated. There is a mechanism for that already and it's called offshoreing. You wanna move a factory or tech work to an area with a lower cost of living and can pay them less? Go nuts. You want people on shore? Allow them unfettered access to market their skills at the market price of the labour.
Again, I'm not against people who are here (there, the USA), and I empathize with rural Healthcare. As a rural Canadian all of my doctors have been originally from South Africa for as long as I've been alive.
This genuinely isn't an anti-immigrant stance. My wife is an immigrant.
Bring people to your nation and invite them to join your society. The whole idea of bringing people in as second class citizens to be exploited is perverse. I'm not saying don't have the people. I'm saying empowering those people is in the best interests of abso-fucking-lutely everyone.
Except the CEOs, i guess, but you'll forgive me if I can't muster a tear.
Fair points all round, thank you for the discourse.
I also appreciate yours. I think a fair number of opponents to h1B are just purely rooted in racism/xenophobia.
This is a case where I wanna hear "what do we replace it with?" From someone before I decide if we're on the same page or not.
A few of those folk seem to be showing their support for you. Nevertheless appreciate the nuance to your thoughts on the matter.
You don't. That's the false dichotomy. It never should have existed in the first place. It's just human trafficking with extra steps.
All immigration is human trafficking?
No, the H1B program specifically. For all practical purposes. Like modern sharecroppers.
So if someone said "it should be replaced with straight immigration and citizenship" ...?