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[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 124 points 1 day ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

This shit is gonna crash so hard our grandchildren will learn about it in school.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

i'm doing my part to accelerate this collapse, by taking whatever liquidity i can out of the system for myself. have extracted my yearly salary in just the last 2 month alone, just by buying calls and puts (practically zero risk, i don't dare short stuff when everything is so massively overpriced)

soonwe i am 100% financially independent the sooner i can dedicate 100% of my time to undermining this abomination we have created in the states

my plan is to spam the overloving shit out of affordable, high quality, high density housing anywhere and everywhere i can (forcefully urbanizing this country, and undermining all rent-seeking parasites)

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I have no interest in finance but I have a big retirement account. Can you explain how to do this so I can help too?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

to keep is simple, as I don't know just how much you know (and I'm still very new myself tbh)

it's all purposefully complicated with obscure rules and exceptions, all specifically meant to trip up new "players", breaking some in the wrong way can land you in prison, while a slight variation might be perfectly fine.

what helped me the most is understanding just how truly rigged the whole thing is, and what helped the most there was a book called Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, everything in it applies frighteningly well to modern day markets even though it was written over 100 years ago.

the biggest most important lesson is...look at everything like a scam designed specifically to extract as much $ from you as possible (which, is especially in low overall-trading volume levels like now, is 100% true. that's fundamentally what bubbles are, people deliberately running the price of stocks up). it's a zero-sum game, in order for you to gain someone else has to lose.

whether that's bonds, stocks, futures, whatever.

but...there are 2 very fundamental rules that always reassert themselves eventually.

  1. the true value of the underlying security, and if a company doesnt pay out a dividend...that means it's stock is functionally worthless

  2. the line MUST go up/down eventually

the more of a disconnect between those 2 things there is, the more someone who knows 1 can take advantage of someone who only thinks in terms 2.

and the best way to do that (for plebs atleast) is...exercising stock-options. the US market, contrary to...literally every other market on earth, has this little rule that allows you to exercise options early.

so for example, say someone sells you a put option on SPY 3 years out, strike...780. right now that'd cost about 12,500/contract to buy. if you bought that and SPY dropped under 655 anytime in the next 3 years...you could exercise it immediately for a profit.

right now spy is 658...a 3 point drop between now and 3 years out...that's practically guaranteed. free $.

but when someone executes those contracts on you, if you don't have the underlying, 1 of 2 things happens...you start paying your broker interest to borrow the underlying (at an ever increasing rate) or they forcibly close your position, which if your over-leveraged enough means...you get liquidated.

the issue is though, in a bubble, when everything is overvalued...how to do you safely play the casino without owning the underlying?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hope we still have schools by then

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't remember how long ago I first saw this one, but I am deeply grateful it's still making the rounds every time I see it.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope humanity is still around by then

[–] LemmingOnTheEdge@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

When is that? In the year 2525?

I shall endure and rage to thine descendants about the folly of economic incest!