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US President Donald Trump delivered a fascist rant Tuesday to the 80th session of the United Nations General Assembly in which he proclaimed “America First” should be the world’s organizing principle, threatened war and aggression the world over, and lionized the criminal actions of his administration at home and abroad.

He attacked both America’s ostensible allies and states long in Washington’s military-strategic crosshairs in a meandering speech that lasted almost triple his allotted time.

Trump reveled in displaying his disdain and contempt for international law, making clear that Washington will accept no restraints on the ruthless assertion of its imperialist interests, whether through trade war, assassinations, regime-change operations or global war.

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’m not sure anyone will really follow or bow down to Vance as they do with Trump. I don’t think Vance has the power, charisma or cult following and (hope) people might ignore him.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago

I tend to get the same feeling. They wanted Trump because of his unhinged nonsense and hyper-aggressive big man stunts. Vance doesn't have that same energy. I am of no mind that Vance is a thinking man with a sense of morals (clearly, he ate his own words by becoming Trump's toady), but I don't see him commanding the many as Trump can.

He'll be dangerous, but in a different way. I feel like Trump is more of the distraction out front while all the real crime is taking place out of sight. He just keeps everybody looking and talking while all his wealthy supporters are walking about the back door with the jewelry.

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Charisma? Trump? Well, compared to Biden. Or Merz...

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago

Charisma isn't necessarily pleasant. It's whatever appeals to the person being spoken to. And, unfortunately, many americans are fucking retarded and gobble up strong man appeals as if they were pigs at the trough. Trump delivers that by the bucketful, and they let it be glomped on top of them, writhing and bathing in the stench.

[–] cenzorrll@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll do whatever Murdoch tells them they should do.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

No, they won't. Don't forget that Trump was dumped by Murdoc for a short while, and the Republicans tried setting up alternative candidates instead of Trump, but none of them worked, because Trump has the Republican voterbase in his pocket. Vance doesn't have that, and is in fact seen as a bit of a laughing stock even among MAGA cultists.

Trump rules the Republican party with an iron fist because he has shown that the voters won't abandon him. Noone else in the party has that kind of hold, and it is very interesting what will happen when Trump dies. Fragmentation seems an obvious answer, but it is impossible to predict. Either way Vance probably won't be among the finalists.