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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
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Bluesky does it by letting people (or automated systems) publish lists of content and users that that publisher is recommending that people block, and then part of your user config is enabling which of those sources you want to apply to your own feed.
I don't really know how you could apply that to Lemmy since the model is just different. Mostly I am just talking philosophy and stuff that irritates me about Lemmy's model. A simplistic approach though could be just to have each user settings include a "mod ignore" list or something alongside the blocks and etc, the list of moderators whose comment deletion and user ban settings you don't want to respect. So you can still see and interact with content that comes from any users those specific mods have attempted to block.
It would be a little bit messy, it might be better to take a step back and reengineer things to be more user-centric instead of that, but that would be compatible with existing stuff, just easy harm reduction when specific mods are widely recognized by the community to be bums. I also think just the threat of it (and the corresponding loss of credibility and control for the mod) would be a useful check on people who currently feel that lack of credibility in the community means literally nothing to them, and don't bother to try to maintain it.
(Hey @jordanlund@lemmy.world -- remember a week ago when people were talking about your moderation on LW and asked you this and this, and then you just fell silent and still like a frozen bunny waiting for the predator to leave, instead of addressing those reasonable questions?)
Just focusing on one thing specifically here: Your grievance here (and others grievances with him) aren't really with Jordan at this point, but with the inability or unwillingness of lemmy.world to act. Jordan's behaviour and positions are well known. Him against the world. He won't budge. It really is up to lemmy.world now.
In theory, lemmy/piefed etc systems are far better for mod accountability on this score because instance owners and admins are far closer to the community than reddit admins. I can tell you also that atomicpoet, for instance, making this decision didn't come out of a vacuum on this point.
Who haven't done anything about it.
Yeah, true that. If I had to engage in rampant speculation, I would say there are two possibilities:
Either or both might be true. Like people said in the original Jordan complainfest thread, they've known about this for literally years at this point, so I agree it seems a little unlikely that things would change now. Kaplan tried to say that new information has come to light now which is leading them to re-evaluate, but that's honestly not really all that credible to me. I don't really know, but if I had to guess I would guess that they'll keep him on just because whatever structural issues led to them keeping him on in the past just haven't changed that I am aware of.
Clearly lol. If anything it is a strong point in piefed.social's favor, is that they're willing to exercise common sense and take action about dumb behavior by their moderators.
And also, if this becomes a big enough issue - there should be a groundswell effort to dethrone the communities that Jordan moderates and supplant them, This can happen here.
I generally fuck with !politics@beehaw.org and !world@quokk.au, they seem a lot more sensible and enjoyable than the lemmy.world equivalents. Honestly every time I enter into the big-world-event communities on lemmy.world I wind up quickly regretting it just because they are so full of hostile objectionable people who are shouting bad opinions (which of course Jordan does nothing about in the course of his relentless quest to stop people changing headlines or being mean to trolls.)
!politics@sh.itjust.works seems a better fit, Beehaw isn't federated with LW or SJW
!politics@sh.itjust.works is mod posting only though, last I checked. Also the mod seems like they might have some kind of strict opinions about what's allowed (there is a post on YPTB about them right now, I haven't really looked to see if there is anything valid to it but I do remember posting stories there way back when and the mod having requests about my posting that seemed somewhat arbitrary to me. Not really anything wrong or PTB, it was just kind of annoying and eventually I went somewhere else.)
To me I think refusing to federate with lemmy.world is a positive, not a negative. I haven't really noticed anything lacking because of the LW users not being involved in the comments aside from a whole bunch of noise and hostility.
LW is still a third of the whole userbase, SJW is in the top 5 instances, for an alternative community to emerge it needs to be accessible from LW and SJW.
Maybe there should be a new "uspolitics" community elsewhere
Yeah, makes sense, I was just talking from my own experience which ones I found to be tolerable to interact with.
I think when I started looking around for an alternative to Beehaw's politics community the best I arrived at was actually !politics_no_um@lemmy.world. I talked with the Quokk.au people about the idea of making one of my own as an alternative... I do have some ideas about how to make a decent politics community. I have hesitated about the idea just because there are already so many, but finding a good one is actually difficult, I do think creating one that's just good would be a good idea.
Named after me, by the way! I'm so famous. lol
You could give it a try
Sorry I missed the reply, lots of stuff going on.
For the replacement bot you offered, I did pass it on to the person who coded the MBFC bot, I honestly don't know what happened to it after that.
The consensus in my communities seemed to be rabidly "anti-bot", they don't want ANY bot, regardless of source. 🤷♂️
So we continue dealing with reported articles case by case.
For the Canadian thing? I made my position clear multiple times, I'm not re-hashing months old Lemmy drama.
Okay, so when you said:
... did you forget that all of that had happened, or what led you to summarize it in that objectively inaccurate way? It wasn't just me either, the people you summarize as "rabidly anti-bot" actually took a ton of time to explain their reasons in detail and offer alternatives, this is just ridiculous trying to pretend that they were the ones being stubborn and childish about it.
Honestly I'm not sure even what response I am looking for from this. Just making the point I guess, but it's already been hashed over to the moon and back. Feel free to respond or not, I don't think it will change anyone's mind unless you have some kind of really great explanation or dramatic reason for saying it this way, which seems unlikely.
(For those just joining us, Jordan isn't Canadian and made a mistake about terminology in the Canadian governmental system, which is fine, but then he started taking mod action against the correct terminology as "misinformation," and when many people including Canadians who are obviously familiar with it and lemmy.world admins tried to explain it to him, they all just kind of got this type of response.)
(Honestly like I say I also see no benefit to me addressing these issues further. As Skavau said, it seems like it's more an issue at this point of, Jordan isn't planning on changing his methods of interaction, and the question is what the rest of Lemmy does about it.)
It's not a matter of forgetting all that happened, it's a matter of having dozens of people going "Reeeeeeee! We hate the bot!" and having one person with a sane reply.
As a rule, yes, the responses I got were non-productive. Yours was the exception, not the rule, it got kicked up and nothing came from it.
TBH, that's the piece I legit don't remember, why it couldn't be implemented, I'd have to dig back through old messages to get the whys and wherefores.
But in the end, given the groups reaction to bots in general? I doubt it would make any difference.
"At best the response was silence"
IDK man, I'm done with this conversation
Clearly silence is better than offering a solution.
A solution carries the implication of critique, the recognition of a problem, and authority, 'respecting' authority, is very importamt to our dear @jordanlund@lemmy.world
Now on your knees, you filthy disrespectful authority disrespecting bastard, and start digging.
Nothing to do with disrespect... Out of all the people complaining, when asked "Well, what do you suggest?" One person had an idea and everyone else dummied up.
As it turned out, the one suggestion didn't work out either, but in the end, I don't think it matters, the people who were complaining would have hated it too.
I hage challlenged you honorably by the code d'ebatemebro, sir. A code you clearly live by, except when it requires anything of you.
Until you give a reason for your rank cowardice and refusal to accept, do not speak to me as you would an equal. Do not splash me with your expectorate lies and so-called justifications that serve only as insults. I am your better in matters of wit and honor, you asmitted this when you declined to accept in a timely manner, and as such I demans the deference worthy of my station, you vile quislinh worm.